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Article #898Re: How does the Light Move?
From: HW Wilson DSc .
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:32
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:32
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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:52:46 -0600, Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>Pentcho Valev wrote:
>> On Dec 18, 3:27 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> sci.physics.relativity:
>>> In our best model of light, QED, the photon is NOT a particle. Neither is it a
>>> wave.
>>> There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
>>> Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. -- Shakespeare
>>> There is no expectation that words and concepts from your everyday life capture
>>> the essence of phenomena far removed from you everyday experience. Photons and
>>> quantum phenomena are indeed far removed (you experience light, not photons or
>>> their quantum implications).
>>
>> Honest Roberts stop introducing red herrings!
>
>Dishonest Valev stop ignoring the context! I was responding to marcofuics, and
>this is not at all a red herring.
>
>
>> You know that the
>> problem crucial for contemporary physics is: Does the speed of light
>> depend on the speed of the light source, as Newton's emission theory
>> of light assumes, or is it independent of the speed of the light
>> source, as Einstein's special relativity assumes.
>
>This is not a "crucial problem" at all, because it has been answered.
>Definitively. As only EXPERIMENTS can do. There are numerous measurements of the
>speed of light emitted by moving sources, and they all obtain c within their
>resolutions. Modeling the speed of light emitted by a source moving with speed v
>as c+kv, experimental measurements require k<2*10^-9, SOLIDLY refuting emission
>theories such as Newton's:
>http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html#moving-source_tests
Such lab experiments have alternative explanations.
The only real test of the emission theory is the way in which it can simulate
variable star brightness curves based on c+v values from orbiting stars.
Matches like these:
http://www.scisite.info/USge.jpg
http://www.scisite.info/UCep.jpg
http://www.scisite.info/group1.jpg
http://www.scisite.info/R_Cru.jpg
http://www.scisite.info/falseeclipse.jpg
.....and many others, are pretty convincing evidence that light behaves
ballistically as it travels across the vacuum of space.
I can only feel very sorry for all those deluded astronomers who are plainly
wasting their time because of Einstein.
Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm
Selling something that doesn't exist is a serious crime....unless it's called god.
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