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Article #946Re: EINSTEIN AGAINST MAXWELL AND NEWTON
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:57
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:57
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On Dec 9, 7:36 pm, PD (Paul Draper) wrote: > On Dec 9, 12:54 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > The following text is consistent with Einstein's relativity theory but > > inconsistent with both Maxwell's electromagnetic theory and Newton's > > emission theory of light: > > > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/big_bang/index.html > > John Norton: "Here's a light wave and an observer. If the observer > > were to hurry towards the source of the light, the observer would now > > pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That would > > mean that moving observer would find the frequency of the light to > > have increased (AND CORRESPONDINGLY FOR THE WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE > > BETWEEN CRESTS - TO HAVE DECREASED)." > > And this is directly confirmed in experiment. > However, it is consistent with Maxwell's electromagnetic theory; you > got that wrong. The problem, Clever Draper, is whether Maxwell's electromagnetic theory predicts that the speed of light is unaffected/affected by the movements of the observer. Consider this, Clever Draper: http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00002149/01/Norton.pdf John Norton: "The difficulty Einstein faced is that Maxwells electrodynamics cannot be an emission theory. One of the most important consequences of the theory is that light in a vacuum always propagates at the same speed, c=186,000 miles per second, WITH RESPECT TO THE ETHER. Its velocity of propagation is unaffected by the velocity of the emitter." Would John Norton have been right if he had written: John Norton's text modified: "The difficulty Einstein faced is that Maxwells electrodynamics cannot be an emission theory. One of the most important consequences of the theory is that light in a vacuum always propagates at the same speed, c=186,000 miles per second, WITH RESPECT TO BOTH THE ETHER AND THE OBSERVER. Its velocity of propagation is unaffected by the velocities of BOTH THE EMITTER AND THE OBSERVER." Again: Clever Draper, is the speed of light unaffected/affected by the movements of the observer according to Maxwell's electromagnetic theory? Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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