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Article #963Re: WHY EINSTEIN STILL RULES
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:36
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:36
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In Einsteiniana any triumph is a fraud but then another triumph (fraud) is superimposed and so on indefinitely. In the end the history of Einsteiniana turns out to be a succession of triumphs, that is, Einstein rules forever: http://mensnewsdaily.com/2009/11/27/climategate-the-skeptical-scientists-view/ Frank J. Tipler: "My own field of general relativity, which is Einstein's theory of gravity, was initially "confirmed" by "fudged" - I would say "fraudulent" - data. Einstein had predicted that stars near the Sun would appear displaced in their positions due to the Sun's gravity, and the English astronomer Sir Arthur Eddington, a fervent believer in Einstein, set out to confirm Einstein's theory. And confirm Einstein he did, although Eddington's equipment was too inaccurate to confirm or reject Einstein. Eddington "showed" that Einstein was right by appropriate weighing of data points, and by throwing out observations inconsistent with Einstein's prediction. In 1919, Eddington announced his "confirmation" at a media circus that made Einstein a world celebrity. Eddington's experiment could only be conducted during a total eclipse of the Sun, a rare event, and so Eddington's claim could not be checked for years. But no experienced scientist at the time believed in Eddington's "confirmation." Rather, what convinced most real scientists - including Einstein - that general relativity was correct was another prediction: The planet Mercury would deviate from its path as predicted by Newton's theory. This deviation had been observed before Einstein was born, and agreed exactly with Einstein. Since general relativity was a theory with no adjustable constants, the observation had to be a true confirmation. Since the astronomers who observed Mercury's deviation were dead before Einstein proposed his theory, there was no chance that they had fudged their observations to agree with Einstein. (...) Frank J. Tipler is Professor of Mathematical Physics at Tulane University." http://astronomy.ifrance.com/pages/gdes_theories/einstein.html "Le deuxième test classique donne en revanche des inquiétudes. Historiquement, pourtant, l'explication de l'avance du périhélie de Mercure, proposé par Einstein lui-même, donna ses lettres de noblesse à la relativité générale. Il s'agissait de comprendra pourquoi le périhélie de Mercure ( le point de son orbite le plus proche du soleil ) se déplaçait de 574 s d'arc par siècle. Certes, sur ces 574 s, 531 s'expliquaient par les perturbations gravitationnels dues aux autres planètes. Mais restait 43 s, le fameux effet "périhélique " inexpliqué par les lois de Newton. Le calcul relativiste d'Einstein donna 42,98 s ! L'accord et si parfait qu'il ne laisse la place à aucune discussion. Or depuis 1966, le soleil est soupçonné ne pas être rigoureusement sphérique mais légèrement aplati à l'équateur. Une très légère dissymétries qui suffirait à faire avancer le périhélie de quelques secondes d'arc. Du coup, la preuve se transformerait en réfutation puisque les 42,88 s du calcul d'Einstein ne pourrait pas expliquer le mouvement réel de Mercure." Pentcho Valev wrote: One of the crucial episodes in Einsteiniana's history which, if honestly analysed, will leave no doubt as to why Einstein still rules: http://www.upd.aas.org/had/meetings/2010Abstracts.html Open Questions Regarding the 1925 Measurement of the Gravitational Redshift of Sirius B Jay B. Holberg Univ. of Arizona. "In January 1924 Arthur Eddington wrote to Walter S. Adams at the Mt. Wilson Observatory suggesting a measurement of the Einstein shift in Sirius B and providing an estimate of its magnitude. Adams 1925 published results agreed remarkably well with Eddingtons estimate. Initially this achievement was hailed as the third empirical test of General Relativity (after Mercurys anomalous perihelion advance and the 1919 measurement of the deflection of starlight). It has been known for some time that both Eddingtons estimate and Adams measurement underestimated the true Sirius B gravitational redshift by a factor of four." http://astronomy.ifrance.com/pages/gdes_theories/einstein.html "Arthur Eddington , le premier en 1924, calculâtes théoriquement un décalage 0,007% attendu la surface de Sirius mais avec des données fausses à l'époque sur la masse et le rayon de l'étoile. L'année suivante, Walter Adams mesurerait exactement ces 0.007%. Il s'avère aujourd'hui que ces mesures , qui constituèrent pendant quarante ans une "preuves" de la relativité, étaient largement "arrangée" tant était grand le désir de vérifier la théorie d'Enstein. La véritable valeur fut mesurée en 1965. Elle est de 0.03% car Sirius est plus petite , et sont champ de gravitation est plus fort que ne le pensait Eddington." See also: http://www.cieletespace.fr/evenement/relativit-les-preuves-taient-fausses RELATIVITE: LES PREUVES ETAIENT FAUSSES "Le monde entier a cru pendant plus de cinquante ans à une théorie non vérifiée. Car, nous le savons aujourd'hui, les premières preuves, issues notamment d'une célèbre éclipse de 1919, n'en étaient pas. Elles reposaient en partie sur des manipulations peu avouables visant à obtenir un résultat connu à l'avance, et sur des mesures entachées d'incertitudes, quand il ne s'agissait pas de fraudes caractérisées." http://www.cieletespaceradio.fr/index.php/2008/05/26/390-histoire-des-sciences-les-preuves-de-la-relativite "Au début du XXème siècle, des scientifiques comme le Britannique Arthur Eddington avaient tant à coeur de vérifier la théorie de la relativité qu'ils ont tout mis en oeuvre pour que leurs expériences soient probantes." (ECOUTEZ!) Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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