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Article #973Re: WHY EINSTEIN STILL RULES
From: BURT
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:35
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:35
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On Nov 20, 12:20 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18068-universes-quantum-speed-b... > "Einstein's theory of special relativity says that all electromagnetic > radiation travels through a vacuum at the speed of light. This speed > is predicted to be constant, regardless of the energy of the > radiation. Yet in 2005, the MAGIC gamma-ray telescope on La Palma in > the Canary Islands suggested the speed of light might not be constant > after all. The telescope, which measured the light released by a > galaxy around 500 million light years away, found that higher energy > photons arrived four minutes behind their lower energy counterparts. > (...) Now new observations suggest quantum gravity cannot be > responsible for the time delay observed by MAGIC. The light from a > powerful, 7-billion year old gamma-ray burst detected by NASA's Fermi > Gamma-ray Space Telescope shows no evidence of a lag between photons > of a range of energies. "We have fewer stomach aches now," says > Amelino-Camelia. "The Fermi data has pushed the limit where it's now > proven the MAGIC data cannot be interpreted in that way." > > The MAGIC data cannot be interpreted in that way? That is, "quantum > gravity cannot be responsible for the time delay observed by MAGIC"? > Then what is the only reasonable conclusion? Three possible versions: > > BURST OF SUPPORT FOR RELATIVITY > > EINSTEIN STILL RULES > > EINSTEINIANA IS AN ETERNAL MONEY-SPINNER > > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v462/n7271/full/462291a.html > NATURE: "Burst of support for relativity. Light from a distant gamma- > ray burst backs up a key prediction of Albert Einstein's theory of > relativity - that photon speed is the same regardless of energy." > > 1. Observations suggest that high-energy photons travel through space > slower than low-energy photons. > > 2. Einsteinians (Lee Smolin and brothers in this case) advance > theories predicting that that high-energy photons travel slower than > low-energy photons. Career, money etc. > > 3. A single observation suggests that high-energy photons travel > through space slower than low-energy photons but the difference in > speed is small. > > 4. Einsteinians (Lee Smolin and brothers again) discover "a key > prediction of Albert Einstein's theory of relativity - that photon > speed is the same regardless of energy". > > 5. Einsteinians (Lee Smolin and brothers again) make a second > discovery: the single observation confirms the "key prediction of > Albert Einstein's theory of relativity" and therefore there is "burst > of support for relativity" in the world. > > 6. The journal Nature immediately publishes Lee Smolin and brothers' > discoveries. Career, money etc. for Nature editors, Lee Smolin, > brothers and sycophants. > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com Einstein's space curve is round. Mitch Raemsch
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