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Article #1000RE: ORTHODOX SPECIAL RELATIVITY
From: Robert Scott
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 18:47
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 18:47
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ROBERT FIRTH WRITES: >In article <1992Aug5.062852.5646@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rscott@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu > (Robert Scott) writes: >>THE KINEMATICS OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY IS SIMPLE COMMON SENSE, A SIMPLE AND >>INEVITABLE RESULT OF SPEED-OF-LIGHT DELAYS. (ROBERT FIRTH AND DARYL >>MCCULLOUGH HAVE EXPLAINED THIS RATHER CLEARLY MANY TIMES HERE ON SCI.PHYSICS, >>I THOUGHT.) > >Thank you for the endorsement, but I must regretfully disclaim the >opinion you attribute to me. Yes, I believe that a lot of SR is >much less mystical and paradoxical than many people suppose - for >example, the 'Barn and Pole' paradox that I wrote up for the FAQ >list seems to me a simple matter of clear postulates plus common >sense (too bad the editor changed the original numbers). > >However, I do not believe all of SR can be explained by signal >delays. If I did, I'd be a happier camper. For me, the crux >is the phenomenon called time dilation. As far as I know, it's >real, it's been observed, there is no good explanation for it >other than SR, and, most important, it is a phenomenon whose >consequences (slow clocks) persist even after everything has >been brought to relative rest and all signals have got wherever >they were going. If Howard Hayden or whoever can pull down >that pillar, the whole edifice will collapse; but so far I >see a lot of straining and grunting, and few signs of imminent >structural failure. But hope is perenneal, as my $25 cheques >to Galilaean Electrodynamics are annual. WELL, MAYBE I DIDN'T MAKE MYSELF CLEAR. I WASN'T TRYING TO SAY THAT THE ORTHODOX VERSION OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY IS WRONG AND THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED BY A COMMON-SENSE VERSION IN WHICH EVERYTING IS EXPLAINED AS A SIMPLE RESULT OF SPEED-OF-LIGHT DELAYS. RATHER, I WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT THE ORTHODOX VERSION OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY _IS_ A COMMON-SENSE VERSION IN WHICH EVERYTHING IS EXPLAINED AS A SIMPLE RESULT OF SPEED-OF-LIGHT DELAYS, REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH SOME TEACHERS AND TEXTBOOKS TRY TO OBFUSCATE THIS POINT. AS FOR THE "GALILIEAN ELECTRODYNAMICS" PEOPLE, I REALLY DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT THEM, BUT IF THEY ARE TRYING TO ARGUE THAT GALILEAN INVARIANCE IS A MORE USEFUL ORGANIZING PRINCIPLE IN PHYSICS THAN LORENTZIAN INVARIANCE IS, THEN THAT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY FOOLHARDY THING TO ATTEMPT. (ACTUALLY I SUSPECT THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE ALTOGETHER, BUT I HAVE VERY LITTLE INTEREST IN FINDING OUT WHAT IT IS.) ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT I'VE TOYED AROUND WITH FOR TRYING TO HELP STUDENTS UNDERSTAND HOW SPEED-OF-LIGHT DELAYS LEAD INEXORABLY TO SPECIAL RELATIVITY IS A COMPUTER GAME MODELLED AFTER AN OLD COMPUTER GAME CALLED "ROBOT WARS". ALTHOUGH "ROBOT WARS" HAD ITS SHARE OF MECHANICAL VIOLENCE, IT WAS NOT A TYPICAL MINDLESS INSTANT-GRATIFICATION GAME; RATHER, THE PLAYERS WOULD WRITE PROGRAMS IN A SIMPLE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE TO ANIMATE ROBOTS LIVING IN A VERY PRIMITIVE LITTLE VIRTUAL WORLD, AND THEN THE PLAYERS WOULD SIT AROUND AND WATCH THE ROBOTS FIGHT AGAINST EACH OTHER ON THE VIDEO SCREEN. IN MY VERSION, THE ROBOTS WOULD BE PARTNERS RATHER THAN OPPONENTS, AND THE GOAL OF THE GAME WOULD BE TO GET THE ROBOTS TO EXECUTE FORMATIONS IN THE STYLE OF A TEAM OF AEROBATIC AIRPLANES. BUT THE LAWS OF PHYSICS IN THIS VIRTUAL WORLD WOULD BE SPECIAL RELATIVISTIC, NOT BY MASSIVE CONTRIVANCE, BUT SIMPLY BY VIRTUE OF RESTRICTING ALL SIGNALS TO TRAVEL AT LIGHT-SPEED (AND DOING NOTHING ELSE TO BREAK THE SYMMETRY ANY FURTHER). THEN STUDENTS WOULD LEARN BY BUTTING THEIR HEADS UP AGAINST MATHEMATICAL REALITY THAT EVEN THOUGH A FLEET OF ROBOTS CAN BE PROGRAMMED TO EXECUTE VERY INTRICATE AND INTERESTING FORMATIONS, THERE IS, FOR EXAMPLE, NO WAY TO PROGRAM THEM SO THAT, STARTING FROM RANDOM POSITIONS IN SPACE-TIME AND RANDOM SUB-LIGHT-SPEED VELOCITIES, THEY ARE ABLE TO ORIENT THEMSELVES RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER AND THEN ACHIEVE DISTANT SYNCHRONIZATION OF ACTION. SIMILARLY THEY WOULD LEARN THAT ANY ATTEMPT TO PROGRAM THE ROBOTS TO ASSUME A FORMATION OF A PARTICULAR RIGID SHAPE WOULD BE VULNERABLE TO CONTRACTION OF THE SHAPE IN THE DIRECTION OF MOTION. THUS THEY WOULD LEARN ABOUT SPECIAL RELATIVITY IN A VERY VISCERAL BUT ALSO VERY INTELLECTUAL WAY. TO BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW THIS GAME PROGRAM WOULD WORK: IN ADDITION TO UNLIMITED INSTANTANEOUS CALCULATION ON AN INTERNAL SCRATCHPAD, EACH ROBOT WOULD BE ABLE TO SELECT FROM AMONG JUST THE FOLLOWING PRIMITIVE OPERATIONS: 1. BROADCAST A MESSAGE. ALL MESSAGES TRAVEL AT ONE FIXED SPEED, CALLED "LIGHT-SPEED". 2. WAIT FOR AND THEN READ A MESSAGE. 3. WAIT FOR AN EVENT DEFINED AS AN AFFINE COMBINATION OF THE POINTS OF ORIGIN OF PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED MESSAGES. 4. SELECT A NEW VELOCITY, SPECIFIED AS THE VELOCITY THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO TRAVEL FROM EVENT X TO EVENT Y, WHERE X AND Y ARE AFFINE COMBINATIONS OF THE POINTS OF ORIGIN OF PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED MESSAGES. IF X=Y OR IF THE SPECIFIED VELOCITY IS LIGHT-SPEED OR GREATER, THEN THE COMMAND IS IGNORED. THE VIDEO DISPLAY WOULD GIVE AN "OMNIPRESENT GOD'S EYE" VIEW OF ABSOLUTE SPACE. THE ROBOTS THEMSELVES WOULD APPEAR AS HIGHLY VISIBLE MOVING DOTS WITH NO SIGNIFICANT SPATIAL EXTENSION, AND BROADCASTED MESSAGES WOULD APPEAR AS DIMLY VISIBLE EXPANDING SPHERES. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BE ABLE TO SET THE NUMBER OF SPATIAL DIMENSIONS TO EITHER ONE, TWO, OR THREE. NOTICE HOW SIMILAR THE PREDICAMENT OF THE ROBOTS IS TO THE PREDICAMENT THAT ORDINARY MATTER FINDS ITSELF IN EVERY DAY, HELPLESS TO DO ANYTHING BUT EXHIBIT ALL THE CLASSIC SYMPTOMS OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY. NOTICE FOR EXAMPLE HOW EASY IT IS IN THE CASE OF ONE SPATIAL DIMENSION TO PROGRAM A PAIR OF ROBOTS TO SIMULATE A RELATIVISTIC ELASTIC COLLISION BETWEEN PARTICLES OF DIFFERENT REST MASS, AND HOW IMPOSSIBLE IT IS TO PROGRAM THEM TO SIMULATE A NON-RELATIVISTIC COLLISION. AS FOR YOUR COMPLAINT THAT LIGHT-SPEED DELAYS CAN NOT EXPLAIN WHY TIME-DILATION OCCURS, I THINK THAT YOU GOT IT EXACTLY BACKWARDS. THAT IS, IT'S NOT THAT THE ROBOTS IN THE GAME DON'T EXHIBIT TIME-DILATION; RATHER IT'S THAT THERE ISN'T EVEN ANY STANDARD AGAINST WHICH YOU CAN ASK WHETHER THEIR TIME IS DILATED. THAT IS, THE SYMMETRY GROUP OPERATING HERE, WHICH IS THE INTERSECTION OF THE GROUP OF AFFINE TRANSFORMATIONS (PRESERVING THE STRUCTURE RELATED TO INERTIAL MOTION AND THE SPECIFICATION OF SPACE-TIME POINTS IN TERMS OF AFFINE COMBINATIONS) AND THE GROUP OF "LORENTZIAN CONFORMAL" TRANSFORMATIONS (PRESERVING THE STRUCTURE RELATED TO THE LIGHT-SPEED SIGNALLING PROTOCOL) IS ALMOST, BUT NOT QUITE, JUST THE POINCARE GROUP OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY. IT HAS ONE EXTRA DIMENSION, CONSISTING OF THE GROUP OF UNIFORM EXPANSIONS OF SPACE-TIME ABOUT AN ARBITRARY REFERENCE POINT. NEVERTHELESS, I STILL THINK THAT THE EXPERIENCE OF LIVING IN THIS SORT OF VIRTUAL WORLD CONVEYS ALMOST ALL OF THE FLAVOR OF WHAT SPECIAL RELATIVITY IS LIKE. THE EXTRA EXPANSION SYMMETRY IS VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND (DESPITE THE RARITY OF TRUE EXPANSION SYMMETRY IN NATURE, AS ILLUSTRATED FOR EXAMPLE BY GALILEO'S ANALYSIS OF WHY IT IS UNHEALTHY FOR AN ANIMAL FOR IT TO GROW TOO BIG), AND ONCE YOU'VE GOTTEN USED TO LIVING WITH [POINCARE+EXPANSION] SYMMETRY IT'S ALSO FAIRLY EASY TO UNDERSTAND HOW JUST THE EXPANSION SYMMETRY CAN BE BROKEN BY THE INTRODUCTION OF CLOCKS WHICH KEEP A STANDARD PROPER TIME (AS CONTRASTED TO A STANDARD TIME VALID IN ALL REFERENCE FRAMES, WHICH WOULD OF COURSE BREAK THE SYMMETRY MUCH FURTHER). -JAMES DOLAN
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!dtix!darwin.sura.net!udel!sbcs.sunysb.edu!csws1.ic.sunysb.edu!rscott From: rscott@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu (Robert Scott) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: RE: ORTHODOX SPECIAL RELATIVITY Message-ID: <1992Aug10.184700.3204@sbcs.sunysb.edu> Date: 10 Aug 92 18:47:00 GMT Sender: usenet@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Usenet poster) Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Lines: 133 Nntp-Posting-Host: csws1.ic.sunysb.edu