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Article #1024Re: What is not being conserved?
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:05
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:05
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tolman%asylum.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Tolman) writes . In QM there is a probability that a photon will end up "hitting" a .certain spot. If there is only one photon, and it has a nondetermined .end point, then some quantity is not being conserved. Consider if I threw .a ball, and then it appeared randomly. How can there be equal and opposite .reaction unless it is going to a specific place? . . Obviously I have something wrong. Does a photon have absolutely zero .momentum? I thought that the idea behind solar sailing was to take .advantage of incredibly small momentums. . . The other possibility is that it retroactively changes the transmitter. .This seems pretty dubious. Momentum is conserved, but quantum mechanically (that does not mean "only on average") If you threw the ball classically in a random direction, there will be a reaction on you, random in direction, but precisely correlated with the actual direction of the of the ball. You can in fact determine (in principle) the direction of the ball by measuring the reaction. The randomness can only be a matter of ignorance of the well defined values for the components of momentum. If, on the other hand, you threw the ball quantum mechanically, and the randomness was a result of a quantum mechanical superposition, things change bit. It may be that no amount of idealization (for the particular quantum interaction which caused you to throw the ball) can tell you which direction the ball went, even in principle. However, conservation laws dictate that the correlations observed classically will still be found. That is to say, if we observe (measure) the direction of the ball, we know the direction of the reaction on you, even before measurement (100% correlation). If you measure the reaction, then you know the direction of the photon, er ball. You will never be able to make a _pair_ of measurements which indicate that momentum was not conserved. An idle comment: It is in the nature of the choices of what measurements to make which give rise to such issues as the EPR "paradox" and Bells's theorem. regards -Mike Gallis
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!mrg3 Organization: Penn State University Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 09:05:28 EDT From: <MRG3@psuvm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <92101.090528MRG3@psuvm.psu.edu> Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: What is not being conserved? References: <1992Apr9.213832.1911@hellgate.utah.edu>