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Article #1040The Speed of Gravity Waves
From: SCOTT I CHASE
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:46
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:46
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There recently was a discussion of gravity waves and I asserted that the speed of such waves must necessarily be Cem, the speed of electromagnetic waves, by virtue of the masslessness of the graviton. I have since learned that my answer was not complete. Here is as better explanation: The speed of gravitational radiation (Cgw) depends upon the specific model of Gravitation that you use. There are quite a few competing models, including of course Einstein's but also Brans-Dicke and several families of others. All metric models can support gravity waves. But not all predict radiation travelling at Cgw = Cem. There is a class of theories with "prior geometry", in which, as I understand it, there is an additional metric which does not depend only on the local matter density. In such theories, Cgw != Cem in general. However, there is good evidence that Cgw is in fact at least almost Cem. We observe high energy cosmic rays in the 10^20-10^21 eV region. Such particles are travelling at up to (1-10^-18)*Cem. If Cgw < Cem, then particles with Cgw < v < Cem will radiate Cherenkov gravitational radiation into the vacuum, and deccelerate from the back reaction. So evidence of these very fast cosmic rays good evidence that Cgw >= (1-10^-18)*Cem, very close indeed to Cem. Summary: In a purely Einsteinian universe, Cgw = Cem. However, a class of models not yet ruled out experimentally does make other predictions. A definitive test would be produced by LIGO in coincidence with optical measurements of some catastrophic event which generates enough gravitational radiation to be detected. Then the "time of flight" of both gravitons and photons from the source to the Earth could be measured, and strict direct limits could be set on Cgw. -Scott
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!news.UU.NET!stanford.edu!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!csa2.lbl.gov!sichase From: sichase@csa2.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE) Newsgroups: sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories Subject: The Speed of Gravity Waves Date: 10 Apr 92 19:46:27 GMT Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA Lines: 34 Distribution: world Message-ID: <22642@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Reply-To: sichase@csa2.lbl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.197 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4