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On Aug 6, 2:05�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
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> > On Aug 5, 1:38 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >> > On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >> > On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >> >> >>news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
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> >> >> >>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >> >>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >> >> >>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >> >> >>>>>> wrote
> >> >> >>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >> >> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> ...
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> >> >> >>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your
> >> >> >>>>>>>> claim.
> >> >> >>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day
> >> >> >>>>>>> of
> >> >> >>>>>>> the
> >> >> >>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were
> >> >> >>>>>>> assembled
> >> >> >>>>>>> for
> >> >> >>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith
> >> >> >>>>>>> unto
> >> >> >>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
> >> >> >>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a
> >> >> >>>>>>> fire
> >> >> >>>>>>> of
> >> >> >>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> >> >> >>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> >> >> >>>>>>> caught.
> >> >> >>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> >> >> >>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were
> >> >> >>>>>>> so
> >> >> >>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> >> >> >>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the
> >> >> >>>>>>> disciples
> >> >> >>>>>>> durst
> >> >> >>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> >> >> >>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and
> >> >> >>>>>>> fish
> >> >> >>>>>>> likewise.
> >> >> >>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> >> >> >>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> >> >> >>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide
> >> >> >>>>>> quoted
> >> >> >>>>>> text -
> >> >> >>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
> >> >> >>>> For what kinds of cases?
> >> >> >>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
> >> >> >>> evidence in the monkey trial.
> >> >> >>> Robert B. Winn
> >> >> >> All kinds if cases?
> >> >> >> You mean, "one type of case"?
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> >> >> > No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as
> >> >> > evidence
> >> >> > in a court case.
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> >> >> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence?
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> >> >> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. Clever,
> >> >> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else.
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> >> > Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the
> >> > Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence.
> >> > Robert B. Winn
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> >> It depends on what you are trying to prove.
> >> Why were you trying to introduce the Constitution as evidence, and how
> >> could
> >> it prove or disprove anything in relation to your particular
> >> circumstabces?
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> > The sixth amendment to the Constitution says that the defendant has
> > the right to trial by jury in "all criminal prosecutions". � The judge
> > in my case had just denied my right to trial by jury.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> Ah!- Now I see where you are getting confused
> You weren't being criminally prosecuted- you were being committed to a
> mental health facility.
> It isn't a crime to be insane.
> Committal to a mental health institution is a due process of law which has
> nothing to do with criminality at all- therefore the sixth amendment would
> be irrelevant in this instance, which is why the judge disallowed it.
> On the other hand, you could have submitted evidence to show that you
> weren't insane, but judging by your posts here, that might have been a
> little difficult for you.
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I was being prosecuted for a misdemeanor.  When I got to court, there
were two doctors, a medical doctor and a doctor of psychology to
accuse me of insanity.  Both of these doctors had visited me in jail
and tried to get me to make a statement to them.
Robert B. Winn