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Article #11037Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:37
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:37
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On Aug 5, 7:49�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 5, 1:38 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:b869657a-8ad3-4d4d-9f10-5440569a3345@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > >>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote > >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your > >>>>>>>>>>>> claim. > >>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled > >>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith > >>>>>>>>>>> unto > >>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. > >>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire > >>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. > >>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now > >>>>>>>>>>> caught. > >>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great > >>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so > >>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. > >>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples > >>>>>>>>>>> durst > >>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. > >>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and > >>>>>>>>>>> fish > >>>>>>>>>>> likewise. > >>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his > >>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. > >>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide > >>>>>>>>>> quoted > >>>>>>>>>> text - > >>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. > >>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? > >>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as > >>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial. > >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>> All kinds if cases? > >>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"? > >>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as evidence > >>>>> in a court case. > >>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence? > >>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. Clever, > >>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else. > >>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the > >>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence. > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> It depends on what you are trying to prove. > >> Why were you trying to introduce the Constitution as evidence, and how could > >> it prove or disprove anything in relation to your particular circumstabces? > > >> -- > > The sixth amendment to the Constitution says that the defendant has > > the right to trial by jury in "all criminal prosecutions". � The judge > > in my case had just denied my right to trial by jury. > > Then you can appeal. > I do appeal every time I am denied trial by jury. Robert B. Winn
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