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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:48
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On Aug 6, 4:18 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Aug 5, 7:26 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > On Aug 6, 12:03 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 4, 10:33 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> > > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > On Aug 5, 8:48 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Aug 3, 10:42 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> > > > > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > > On Aug 2, 11:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Aug 1, 7:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 7:34 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>> What makes a book fiction or non-fiction is the intent of the author or
> > > > > > > > >>> authors. A fiction book is an account of imaginary events.
> > > > > > > > >> Exactly so, and THAT is why the Bible is fiction. I'm glad you
> > > > > > > > >> understand that, you may be making progress.
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> > > > > > > > > The proclamation of an atheist has no real power. It does not change
> > > > > > > > > reality.
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> > > > > > > > And the proclamation of a religious nutter such as yourself has even
> > > > > > > > less power. It doesn't even acknowledge reality.
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> > > > > > > So why was I the one who acknowledged that Hezekiah's tunnel exists
> > > > > > > while atheists tried to claim that tour guides in Jerusalem were
> > > > > > > taking tourists through solid rock?
> > > > > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > > > > This is another of your more persistent lies. No-one said at any
> > > > > > stage that there is no tunnel.
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> > > > > > Al- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > You continue to say that the Bible is nothing but mythology. If you
> > > > > say that the Bible is nothing but mythology, you are saying that the
> > > > > tunnel is mythology because the Bible describes the construction of
> > > > > Hezekiah's tunnel in three different books of the Old Testament.
> > > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > > No. You continue to not see the point. It is quite disturbing.
> > > > Greek mythology mentions Mount Olympus and Athens, both of which exist
> > > > today. This does not mean that Athens is mythological.
> > > > Surely you can't be THAT stupid.
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> > > I am not so stupid as to believe that an atheist would ever do
> > > anything but deny that Hezekiah's tunnel exists. If you tell me that
> > > you believe the tunnel exists, all you are doing is saying that you
> > > would tell the next person it does not exist.
>
> > And this is where you fail. You clearly prefer the voices in your
> > head to reality. I believe this is called scitzophrenia in medical
> > journals. Why is it that religious people tend so strongly to
> > scitzophrenia, do you think? Might it be that a disconnection to
> > reality is required to continue believing that crap?
>
> > > That is how you do
> > > things. Since that is the way you are, I just keep it simple by
> > > saying that you continue to deny the existence of the tunnel. Denying
> > > the veracity of anything in the Bible is more important to you than
> > > the existence of the tunnel. As long as it remains that way, you do
> > > not admit that the tunnel exists. All you are doing is just putting
> > > words together in an attempt to deceive.
> > > Robert B. Winn
>
> > All you are doing is arguing with the voices in your head. You here
> > admit that you are talking to what you think we are thinking, instead
> > of what we say. The fact that your ideas of the conversation don't
> > actually have anything to do with what anyone is saying never enters
> > your dim head.
>
> > The only atheist who thinks like you believe atheists think, is the
> > one in your own head!
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> > Al- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> There is no atheist in my head.
> Robert B. Winn

No.  There's a caricature of an atheist in your head.  Real atheists
think better than that.

Al
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From: "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwhipp@optusnet.com.au>
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 01:48:32 -0700 (PDT)
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