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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:50
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On Aug 6, 4:29 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Aug 5, 7:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Aug 5, 6:50 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>> On Aug 4, 10:10 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>> On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> > >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
> > >>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
> > >>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
> > >>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> > >>>>>>>>>>> caught.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> > >>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
> > >>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
> > >>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> > >>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> > >>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
> > >>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
> > >>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as
> > >>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
> > >>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial".
> > >>>>>>> Riobert B. Winn
> > >>>>>> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as
> > >>>>>> evidence.
> > >>>>>> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern
> > >>>>>> time crime or cases?
> > >>>>>> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I
> > >>>>>> thought.- Hide quoted text -
> > >>>>> Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. So we have that
> > >>>>> precedent in American jurisprudence.
> > >>>> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. Your credibility is
> > >>>> nil at this point.
> > >>> Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only
> > >>> atheism is allowed in courtrooms.
> > >> You mean, they'll only allow secular evidence?
>
> > >>> That does not mean that the Bible
> > >>> is not evidence. No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to
> > >>> make the Bible disappear. That is why it is evidence.
> > >> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear.
>
> > >> It also isn't evidence, no matter hard you try to make it evidence.
>
> > >> --
>
> > > So you are saying that the Bible is like Hezekiah's tunnel, it does
> > > not exist.
>
> > Um. No.
>
>   If the Bible exists, then it is evidence.  So does it exist or not?
> Robert B. Winn

Yes, several of them exist.  Several Harry Potter books exist too.
What was your point here anyway?

Al
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From: "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwhipp@optusnet.com.au>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 01:50:54 -0700 (PDT)
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