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Article #11046Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Steve O
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:05
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:05
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:a10f7f11-cc70-4c07-b2cc-7c4f2d5a8b51@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 5, 1:38�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:b869657a-8ad3-4d4d-9f10-5440569a3345@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> > On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >>news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> >>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >> >> >>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> >> >> >>>>>> wrote >> >> >>>>>> in alt.atheism: >> >> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >> >> >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote >> >> >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>> ... >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> the >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >> >> >>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >> >> >>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >> >> >>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your >> >> >>>>>>>> claim. >> >> >>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day >> >> >>>>>>> of >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >> >>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were >> >> >>>>>>> assembled >> >> >>>>>>> for >> >> >>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith >> >> >>>>>>> unto >> >> >>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >> >> >>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a >> >> >>>>>>> fire >> >> >>>>>>> of >> >> >>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >> >> >>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >> >> >>>>>>> caught. >> >> >>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >> >> >>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were >> >> >>>>>>> so >> >> >>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >> >> >>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the >> >> >>>>>>> disciples >> >> >>>>>>> durst >> >> >>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >> >> >>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and >> >> >>>>>>> fish >> >> >>>>>>> likewise. >> >> >>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >> >> >>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >> >> >>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide >> >> >>>>>> quoted >> >> >>>>>> text - >> >> >>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. >> >> >>>> For what kinds of cases? >> >> >>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as >> >> >>> evidence in the monkey trial. >> >> >>> Robert B. Winn >> >> >> All kinds if cases? >> >> >> You mean, "one type of case"? >> >> >> > No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as >> >> > evidence >> >> > in a court case. >> >> >> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence? >> >> >> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. Clever, >> >> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else. >> >> > Not today. �A judge today in the United States will not even allow the >> > Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> It depends on what you are trying to prove. >> Why were you trying to introduce the Constitution as evidence, and how >> could >> it prove or disprove anything in relation to your particular >> circumstabces? >> >> -- > The sixth amendment to the Constitution says that the defendant has > the right to trial by jury in "all criminal prosecutions". The judge > in my case had just denied my right to trial by jury. > Robert B. Winn Ah!- Now I see where you are getting confused You weren't being criminally prosecuted- you were being committed to a mental health facility. It isn't a crime to be insane. Committal to a mental health institution is a due process of law which has nothing to do with criminality at all- therefore the sixth amendment would be irrelevant in this instance, which is why the judge disallowed it. On the other hand, you could have submitted evidence to show that you weren't insane, but judging by your posts here, that might have been a little difficult for you. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
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