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On Aug 5, 11:35 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Aug 4, 9:55 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 10:14 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 3, 9:35 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> > > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > On Aug 2, 4:40 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Aug 1, 8:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > > > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > > On Jul 31, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >> rbwinn wrote:
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> > > > > > >>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then?
> > > > > > >>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and
> > > > > > >>>>>> hypocrites. But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human
> > > > > > >>>>>> rights.
> > > > > > >>>>> Well, yes, I do. Like other atheists you campaign for abortion,
> > > > > > >>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed.
> > > > > > >>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > > > > > >>>> Please show me evidence that I've campaigned for abortion. Because
> > > > > > >>>> that's a flat out lie. And is that your best effort at demonising
> > > > > > >>>> atheists?
> > > > > > >>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > > >>>> - Show quoted text -
> > > > > > >>> Atheists have caused more abortions than any other group of people.
> > > > > > >> So, you can't show evidence where atheists (like Al) have campaigned for
> > > > > > >> abortion. You have lied.
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> > > > > > >> --
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> > > > > > > Josef Stalin was an atheist like Al. While Josef Stalin was dictator
> > > > > > > of the Soviet Union, the number of abortions in Russia increased to
> > > > > > > about five per woman.
> > > > > > > In the People's Republic of China, women who have had one child are
> > > > > > > required by the state to abort any children conceived after the first
> > > > > > > child is born.
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> > > > > > So, you have lied.
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> > > > > No, I did not lie.
> > > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > > Yes you did. You said I campaigned for abortion. When asked about
> > > > it, you said Stalin and Mao created societies with a higher incidence
> > > > of abortion (with no cites), and suggested that this means I campaign
> > > > for abortions. Your thinking is disjointed and unconnected to itself.
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> > > > Al- Hide quoted text -
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> > > Well, I am certainly sorry, Al. All you have to do to clear up the
> > > confusion is to say you are in favor of right to life.
> > > Robert B. Winn
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> > I am in favour of a right to life. But I feel you will misrepresent
> > everything I say, as you have previously.
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> > Al- Hide quoted text -
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> Oh, well then you weould not object if a mother in China was allowed
> to have a second child instead of being required to abort it by the
> government.
> Robert B. Winn


No.  And I think you'll find the Chinese government doesn't either.
It just refuses to pay for the upkeep of more than the first child.
It does not enforce abortions.  Yes, you could look at this stance as
totalitarian, extreme, and encouraging abortions, but it doesn't
enforce them.

Your disregard for reality is getting annoying.

Al