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Article #11079Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:47
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:47
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rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 5, 6:50�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 4, 10:10 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the >>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for >>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto >>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of >>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >>>>>>>>>>> caught. >>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so >>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst >>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish >>>>>>>>>>> likewise. >>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. >>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? >>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as >>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as >>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial". >>>>>>> Riobert B. Winn >>>>>> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as >>>>>> evidence. >>>>>> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern >>>>>> time crime or cases? >>>>>> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I >>>>>> thought.- Hide quoted text - >>>>> Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. So we have that >>>>> precedent in American jurisprudence. >>>> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. Your credibility is >>>> nil at this point. >>> Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only >>> atheism is allowed in courtrooms. � >> You mean, they'll only allow secular evidence? >> >>> That does not mean that the Bible >>> is not evidence. �No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to >>> make the Bible disappear. �That is why it is evidence. >> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear. >> >> It also isn't evidence, no matter hard you try to make it evidence. >> >> -- >> > So you are saying that the Bible is like Hezekiah's tunnel, it does > not exist. Um. No. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
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