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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Steve O
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:35
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Aug 4, 9:36�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> On Aug 4, 9:40 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> > On Aug 3, 8:38 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > rbwinn wrote:
>> > > > On Aug 3, 4:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> > > >> rbwinn wrote:
>> > > >>> On Aug 3, 8:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> > > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> > > >>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn 
>> > > >>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>> > > >>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>> > > >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> > > >>>>>> ...
>> > > >>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
>> > > >>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
>> > > >>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
>> > > >>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
>> > > >>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
>> > > >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
>> > > >>>> I have a Bible. There's no evidence in there to back up your 
>> > > >>>> claim.
>> > > >>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of 
>> > > >>> the
>> > > >>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled 
>> > > >>> for
>> > > >>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith 
>> > > >>> unto
>> > > >>> them, Peace be unto you.
>> > > >>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire 
>> > > >>> of
>> > > >>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
>> > > >>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
>> > > >>> caught.
>> > > >>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
>> > > >>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
>> > > >>> many, yet was not the net broken.
>> > > >>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples 
>> > > >>> durst
>> > > >>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
>> > > >>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and 
>> > > >>> fish
>> > > >>> likewise.
>> > > >>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
>> > > >>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
>> > > >> No, that's not evidence. That's a claim.
>>
>> > > > Well, you have to understand something about rules of evidence. If
>> > > > something exists, it can be entered into evidence. The Bible
>> > > > exists.
>>
>> > > This post exists. This post says that unicorns exist. Therefore, this
>> > > post can be entered into evidence and unicorns must exist. Right?
>>
>> > > Or is "unicorns exist" just a claim?
>>
>> > No, it is evidence that you are not telling the truth.
>>
>> > > > So what is your position, that the Bible does not exist, therefore 
>> > > > it
>> > > > cannot be entered into evidence?
>> > > > This is the same tactic you have used from the beginning concerning
>> > > > Hezekiah's tunnel.
>>
>> > > Um, no. And you cannot prove that any atheist has ever said anything
>> > > about Hezekiah's tunnel not existing, so you might as well give up 
>> > > that
>> > > tripe.
>>
>> > One atheist a few years back said that Hezekiah's tunnel was a hoax
>> > perpetrated by Jerusalem tour guides.
>> > Robert B. Winn
>>
>> And none in this discussion and no citation to back up this claim.
>> And yet you ascribe all atheists with the property of denying tunnel
>> exists.
>> Why is that? �Could it be that you're another Liar-for-jesus?
>>
>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
>
> No, it is just that knowing the way atheists are, if an atheist tells
> me that he believes the tunnel exists, I do not believe that atheist
> is really conceding its existence, but will continue to say that the
> Bible is nothing but mythology even after being shown that it is not.
> Robert B. Winn

You simply cannot be that stupid.
Then again, you could surprise me.

-- 
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
Convicted by Earthquack
Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence

 
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From: "Steve O" <nospamhere@thanks.com>
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:35:19 +0100
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