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Article #11111Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Steve O
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:35
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:35
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:660f9180-eecb-4f30-a0e4-f28aca604d5a@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 4, 9:36�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> On Aug 4, 9:40 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Aug 3, 8:38 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> > > rbwinn wrote: >> > > > On Aug 3, 4:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> > > >> rbwinn wrote: >> > > >>> On Aug 3, 8:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> > > >>>> rbwinn wrote: >> > > >>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> > > >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >> > > >>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote >> > > >>>>>> in alt.atheism: >> > > >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> > > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> > > >>>>>> ... >> > > >>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >> > > >>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >> > > >>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the >> > > >>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >> > > >>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >> > > >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >> > > >>>> I have a Bible. There's no evidence in there to back up your >> > > >>>> claim. >> > > >>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of >> > > >>> the >> > > >>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled >> > > >>> for >> > > >>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith >> > > >>> unto >> > > >>> them, Peace be unto you. >> > > >>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire >> > > >>> of >> > > >>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >> > > >>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >> > > >>> caught. >> > > >>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >> > > >>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so >> > > >>> many, yet was not the net broken. >> > > >>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples >> > > >>> durst >> > > >>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >> > > >>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and >> > > >>> fish >> > > >>> likewise. >> > > >>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >> > > >>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >> > > >> No, that's not evidence. That's a claim. >> >> > > > Well, you have to understand something about rules of evidence. If >> > > > something exists, it can be entered into evidence. The Bible >> > > > exists. >> >> > > This post exists. This post says that unicorns exist. Therefore, this >> > > post can be entered into evidence and unicorns must exist. Right? >> >> > > Or is "unicorns exist" just a claim? >> >> > No, it is evidence that you are not telling the truth. >> >> > > > So what is your position, that the Bible does not exist, therefore >> > > > it >> > > > cannot be entered into evidence? >> > > > This is the same tactic you have used from the beginning concerning >> > > > Hezekiah's tunnel. >> >> > > Um, no. And you cannot prove that any atheist has ever said anything >> > > about Hezekiah's tunnel not existing, so you might as well give up >> > > that >> > > tripe. >> >> > One atheist a few years back said that Hezekiah's tunnel was a hoax >> > perpetrated by Jerusalem tour guides. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> And none in this discussion and no citation to back up this claim. >> And yet you ascribe all atheists with the property of denying tunnel >> exists. >> Why is that? �Could it be that you're another Liar-for-jesus? >> >> Al- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > No, it is just that knowing the way atheists are, if an atheist tells > me that he believes the tunnel exists, I do not believe that atheist > is really conceding its existence, but will continue to say that the > Bible is nothing but mythology even after being shown that it is not. > Robert B. Winn You simply cannot be that stupid. Then again, you could surprise me. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
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