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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:50
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 4, 10:10�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
>>>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
>>>>>>>>> likewise.
>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as
>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial".
>>>>> Riobert B. Winn
>>>> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as
>>>> evidence.
>>>> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern
>>>> time crime or cases?
>>>> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I
>>>> thought.- Hide quoted text -
>>> Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. �So we have that
>>> precedent in American jurisprudence.
>> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. �Your credibility is
>> nil at this point.
> 
> Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only
> atheism is allowed in courtrooms.   

You mean, they'll only allow secular evidence?

> That does not mean that the Bible
> is not evidence.  No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to
> make the Bible disappear.  That is why it is evidence.

Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear.

It also isn't evidence, no matter hard you try to make it evidence.


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