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Article #11266Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:40
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:40
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On Aug 3, 8:38�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 3, 4:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 3, 8:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > >>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > >>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the > >>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > >>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. > >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > >>>> I have a Bible. There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. > >>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the > >>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for > >>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto > >>> them, Peace be unto you. > >>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of > >>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. > >>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now > >>> caught. > >>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great > >>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so > >>> many, yet was not the net broken. > >>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst > >>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. > >>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish > >>> likewise. > >>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his > >>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. > >> No, that's not evidence. That's a claim. > > > Well, you have to understand something about rules of evidence. �If > > something exists, it can be entered into evidence. �The Bible > > exists. > > This post exists. �This post says that unicorns exist. �Therefore, this > post can be entered into evidence and unicorns must exist. �Right? > > Or is "unicorns exist" just a claim? No, it is evidence that you are not telling the truth. > > So what is your position, that the Bible does not exist, therefore it > > cannot be entered into evidence? > > This is the same tactic you have used from the beginning concerning > > Hezekiah's tunnel. > > Um, no. �And you cannot prove that any atheist has ever said anything > about Hezekiah's tunnel not existing, so you might as well give up that > tripe. > One atheist a few years back said that Hezekiah's tunnel was a hoax perpetrated by Jerusalem tour guides. Robert B. Winn
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