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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:40
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On Aug 3, 8:38�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 3, 4:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Aug 3, 8:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> >>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> >>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
> >>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> >>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> >>>> I have a Bible. There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
> >>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
> >>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
> >>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
> >>> them, Peace be unto you.
> >>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
> >>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> >>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> >>> caught.
> >>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> >>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
> >>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> >>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
> >>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> >>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
> >>> likewise.
> >>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> >>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> >> No, that's not evidence. That's a claim.
>
> > Well, you have to understand something about rules of evidence. �If
> > something exists, it can be entered into evidence. �The Bible
> > exists.
>
> This post exists. �This post says that unicorns exist. �Therefore, this
> post can be entered into evidence and unicorns must exist. �Right?
>
> Or is "unicorns exist" just a claim?

No, it is evidence that you are not telling the truth.

> > So what is your position, that the Bible does not exist, therefore it
> > cannot be entered into evidence?
> > This is the same tactic you have used from the beginning concerning
> > Hezekiah's tunnel.
>
> Um, no. �And you cannot prove that any atheist has ever said anything
> about Hezekiah's tunnel not existing, so you might as well give up that
> tripe.
>
One atheist a few years back said that Hezekiah's tunnel was a hoax
perpetrated by Jerusalem tour guides.
Robert B. Winn
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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