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Article #1128Re: Question about dimmer switch and lamp.
From: Jim Easton
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:19
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:19
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usenet@crd.ge.com (Required for NNTP) writes: >>In article <1020006@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> rrr@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Rudi Rynders) writes: >> >> Given an incandescent lamp with a dimmer switch. The lamp is on. ... >> switch up, no matter how slow, the light always comes on rather >> suddenly and much brighter than in the reverse process . >This is not a physics problem, it is an electrical engineering problem. >If you were the incandescent lamp with a Variac, it would turn off and on >at the same point, smoothly and without hysteresis. The reason it behaves >as described by Rudi is that residential dimmers do not use variable >transformers, but do use a semiconductor switch called a Triac to apply >the 60Hz power to the lamp for variable portions of the cycle. That is, at >half power, full voltage is applied for half of each 60Hz cycle. The >triggering circuit for this Triac has considerable hysteresis, which >accounts for the behavior documented above. I beg to differ. The reason that you don't observe the effect with a variac is that a variac is a low impedance (constant voltage) source and the bulb can draw as much current as it needs when the filament is cold (and has a low resistance). The triac on the other hand is a high impedance source and with a variable resistance, as represented by a lightbulb at different temperatures, will create a bistable system. I can state with some confidence that it has nothing to do with the hysteresis of the triac for two reasons; 1) One observes the same effect if the dimmer is a rheostat. 2) the triac hysteresis is repeated 60 times a second but the bulb can stay in one of its two states essentially forever. Jim
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