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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:38
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 3, 4:18�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 3, 8:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
>>>> I have a Bible. There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
>>> John 20:19 �Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
>>> them, Peace be unto you.
>>> John 21:9 �As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
>>> 10 � Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
>>> caught.
>>> 11 � Simon Peter �went up, and drew the net to land full of great
>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: �and for all there were so
>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
>>> 13 �Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
>>> likewise.
>>> 14 �This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
>> No, that's not evidence. �That's a claim.
>>
> Well, you have to understand something about rules of evidence.  If
> something exists, it can be entered into evidence.  The Bible
> exists.

This post exists.  This post says that unicorns exist.  Therefore, this 
post can be entered into evidence and unicorns must exist.  Right?

Or is "unicorns exist" just a claim?

> So what is your position, that the Bible does not exist, therefore it
> cannot be entered into evidence?
> This is the same tactic you have used from the beginning concerning
> Hezekiah's tunnel.

Um, no.  And you cannot prove that any atheist has ever said anything 
about Hezekiah's tunnel not existing, so you might as well give up that 
tripe.

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