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On Aug 3, 4:25�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 3, 8:21 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Aug 3, 4:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Aug 2, 7:16 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Most independent voters do not have the means to meet the requirements
> >>>>>>>>> for ballot access that party politicians have imposed.
> >>>>>>>> Most PEOPLE do not have the means to meet the requirements for ballot
> >>>>>>>> access that the party politicians have imposed.
> >>>>>>> Well, I am sure that you Europeans are very impressed by that, but we
> >>>>>>> Americans would like to have our own system of elections in effect.
> >>>>>>> Democrats and Republicans see the voters as their personal property
> >>>>>>> the same way Nazi party members saw the people of Germany as their
> >>>>>>> personal property before World War II.
> >>>>>> I notice you TOTALLY ignored the demolition of your claim.
> >>>>> Well, you Party members do not like to be ignored, I know that much.
> >>>>> Sorry, but I registered as an independent voter the first time i
> >>>>> voted.
> >>>> So did I. And your claim that Independent voters cannot run for office
> >>>> was demolished.
> >>> Independent voters cannot run for public office.
> >> Then how did Bernie Sanders get into office?
>
> >>> You said it
> >>> yourself.
> >> Where?
>
> >>> As recent as the 1970's there were states where an
> >>> independent voter could run for President of the United States with 24
> >>> nomination petition signatures. That is no longer true. Party
> >>> politicians have passed laws in almost all states since that time
> >>> putting candidacy for office out of the reach of independent voters.
> >>> Unless a person running for office has a party faction behind him, he
> >>> cannot meet the requirements to get on the ballot. Party politicians
> >>> make certain that a person running for office has to solicit money and
> >>> organize faction, making all candidates automatically part of the
> >>> corruption of party politics. Until recently in American government
> >>> this was not true. When the government first started, elections were
> >>> conducted to include ordinary citizens.
> >> Then why can I find evidence of Independents running for office
> >> throughout our nation's history...up to this election?
>
> > Up until this election independent voters were allowed and able to
> > register as candidates in the United States, although since 1800, the
> > party controlled news media has never publicized anything except party
> > candidates.
> > Now in this election, Green Party candidate Ralph Nader is running as
> > an independent candidate. �However, Mr. Nader is not an independent
> > voter. �You would also discover that almost all independent candidates
> > in the United States have not been independent voters.
>
> How do you define "independent voters"?
>
> --
An independent voter is a voter who is not registered as a member of a
political party.   Originally all voters in the United States were
independent voters.
Robert B. Winn