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On Aug 2, 1:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 31, 2:47 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
> >>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of, they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted
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> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve.
> >>>>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste
> >>>>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no
> >>>>>>>>>> one_
> >>>>>>>>>> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around
> >>>>>>>>> lying about it.
> >>>>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the
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> >>>>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not
> >>>>>>> been ordained.
> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>> I am an apostle.
> >>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
> >>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>> You did.
> >>>> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle,
> >>>> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle.
> >>>> It's right up there, in the text.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Steve O
> >>> Paul was ordained an apostle. Al was not.
> >> I ordain Al as an apostle.
>
> >> --
> > You would have to be an apostle to ordain an apostle.
>
> I've already been ordained an apostle.
>


w00t!
Reverend and Apostle!
I can be a saviour next.  So long as it's not one of those martyr type
saviours.

Al