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On Aug 3, 7:47�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 2, 7:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Aug 2, 1:17 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Aug 1, 11:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 8:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2:47 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of, they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one_
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lying about it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been ordained.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am an apostle.
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You did.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's right up there, in the text.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>> Paul was ordained an apostle. Al was not.
> >>>>>>>>>> I ordain Al as an apostle.
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> You would have to be an apostle to ordain an apostle.
> >>>>>>>> I've already been ordained an apostle.
> >>>>>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
> >>>>>> God.
> >>>>> Why would God ordain you an apostle?
> >>>> God works in mysterious ways.
> >>>>> The original twelve apostles
> >>>>> were ordained by Jesus Christ.
> >>>> And none of them were Paul.
> >>>>> All apostles since that time have been
> >>>>> ordained by apostles.
> >>>> So?
> >>>>> It is contrary to the order of heaven for God
> >>>>> to do anything for men that they can do for themselves.
> >>>> You presume to speak for God?
> >>> I absolutely do.
> >> I'll make sure that God knows that you took it upon yourself to speak
> >> for Him.
>
> > Hebrews 5:1 �For every high priest taken from among men is ordained
> > for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and
> > sacrifices for sins:
> > 2 �Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out
> > of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity.
> > 3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for
> > himself, to offer for sins.
> > 4 �And no man taketh this honor unto himself, but he that is called of
> > God, as was Aaron.
>
> Yeah, you might want to read your Bible again. �Did God qualify you to
> speak for Him as he did for Moses in Exodus 3 and 4, Samuel in 1 Samuel
> 3, or Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel in Isaiah 6, Jeremiah 1, and Ezekiel
> 2, respectively?
>
> Did He?
>
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Yes.
Robert B. Winn