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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:02
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 3, 8:09�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 2, 7:28 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 2, 4:22 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 9:51 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 7:33 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 6:48 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:48:10 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 9:07?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:6feg2oFb88s6U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:03071fc3-e432-49b6-a4a5-c22bd4a879ab@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 9:45?pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 10:47 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 1:19 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 12:11 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 9:59 am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:85ce5d7c-67c2-4090-8fd1-14d9b48f203d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are only two commandments in the Law of Christ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love the Lord thy God, Love thy neighbor as thyself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I draw the line at giving my neighbour hand jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (as he will no doubt be relieved to hear).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who engages in homosexuality does not love the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since he is contributing to that person's damnation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up this silly claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you take it up with Einstein when he returns, that idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with me.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would Einstein be interested in homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would Jesus?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All homosexuals will be judged by Jesus, the same as with sinners of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites. ?But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes, I do. ? Like other atheists you campaign for abortion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop being such an idiot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you equate atheism with pro-abortionism?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are not the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have already been corrected in your mistaken belief that all atheists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are pro-abortion, so why do you insist on lying?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We may be (and I am) pro-choice, but none, AFAIK, are pro-abortion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pro-choice today is used interchangably with pro-abortion.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Only by liars, particularly the liars who call themselves pro-life, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> prove by their politics that they love killing people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not pro-choice because you are opposed to the choices that would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> made by any children killed by abortion.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Children are not killed by abortion.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, here we are at another word besides gay that atheists are trying
>>>>>>>>>>> to change the meaning of. Fortunately for Christian people, we have
>>>>>>>>>>> the Bible.
>>>>>>>>>>> Luke 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of
>>>>>>>>>>> Nazareth, into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called
>>>>>>>>>>> Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
>>>>>>>>>>> 5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
>>>>>>>>>>> So do you really think you are going to be able to change the meaning?
>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We're not going to allow you to change the meaning of the word
>>>>>>>>>> "child" to mean anything from fertilization on.
>>>>>>>>> Well, take a good look at verse five. That was not written by me. It
>>>>>>>>> was written by a physician .
>>>>>>>> Verse 5....in which translation?
>>>>>>>> Hint: Luke was not written in English.
>>>>>>> It means the same in Greek as it does in English.
>>>>>> Yes. It doesn't say anything about "child". It says " (egkuos)".
>>>>>> Egkuos means pregnant.
>>>>> So you are saying that Luke as a physician was so ignorant that he
>>>>> could not tell that a pregnant woman was with child?
>>>> Luke didn't write the Gospel of Luke, numbnuts.
>>>> Secondly, "with child" is not a medical term. It is a colloquialism.
>>>> Are you seriously suggesting that, since some people call being pregnant
>>>> being "with child", that that means that there is a child in the womb?
>>>> I was at the store today and I heard a wife call her husband a "honey
>>>> bunny". Does that mean that husband is lapine in nature and is covered
>>>> in the thick processed pollen of flowers?
>>> So you say you were convinced that a pregnant woman does not have a
>>> child in her womb because a woman at the store called her husband
>>> honey bunny. �
>> Right. �We use a lot of nonstandard words for things.
>>
>> Point being, there is no actual child in the womb and the husband is not
>> a rabbit.
>>
>>> What you probably will want to do is to find someone who
>>> reads a lot of Harry Potter books and tell that person about your
>>> experience. �Since I read the Bible, it just does not have the same
>>> effect on me.
>> I do talk about Harry Potter... AS FICTION.
> 
> Well, I talk about your idea that a pregnant woman does not have a
> child in her womb AS FICTION.

I do not care what you think it is.

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