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Article #11380Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:26
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:26
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On Aug 2, 9:56�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:04:19 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >On Aug 2, 9:51?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >> > On Aug 1, 7:33 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>> On Aug 1, 6:48 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:48:10 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >> >>>> in alt.atheism: > >> >>>>> On Jul 31, 9:07?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>> "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>news:6feg2oFb88s6U1@mid.individual.net... > >> >>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>news:03071fc3-e432-49b6-a4a5-c22bd4a879ab@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > >> >>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 9:45?pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >> >>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 10:47 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 1:19 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 12:11 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 9:59 am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:85ce5d7c-67c2-4090-8fd1-14d9b48f203d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are only two commandments in the Law of Christ: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love the Lord thy God, Love thy neighbor as thyself. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ======== > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I draw the line at giving my neighbour hand jobs. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (as he will no doubt be relieved to hear). > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who engages in homosexuality does not love the other > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> person, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> since he is contributing to that person's damnation. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up this silly claim. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you take it up with Einstein when he returns, that idea > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> has > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with me.- Hide quoted text - > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why would Einstein be interested in homosexuality? > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Why would Jesus?- Hide quoted text - > >> >>>>>>>>>> All homosexuals will be judged by Jesus, the same as with sinners of > >> >>>>>>>>>> any kind. > >> >>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >> >>>>>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then? > >> >>>>>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and > >> >>>>>>>>> hypocrites. ?But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human > >> >>>>>>>>> rights. > >> >>>>>>>> Well, yes, I do. ? Like other atheists you campaign for abortion, > >> >>>>>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed. > >> >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >> >>>>>>> Stop being such an idiot. > >> >>>>>>> Why do you equate atheism with pro-abortionism? > >> >>>>>>> They are not the same thing. > >> >>>>>>> You have already been corrected in your mistaken belief that all atheists > >> >>>>>>> are pro-abortion, so why do you insist on lying? > >> >>>>>> We may be (and I am) pro-choice, but none, AFAIK, are pro-abortion. > >> >>>>> Pro-choice today is used interchangably with pro-abortion. > >> >>>> Only by liars, particularly the liars who call themselves pro-life, but > >> >>>> prove by their politics that they love killing people. > >> >>>>> You are > >> >>>>> not pro-choice because you are opposed to the choices that would be > >> >>>>> made by any children killed by abortion. > >> >>>> Children are not killed by abortion.- Hide quoted text - > >> >>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >>> Well, here we are at another word besides gay that atheists are trying > >> >>> to change the meaning of. Fortunately for Christian people, we have > >> >>> the Bible. > >> >>> Luke 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of > >> >>> Nazareth, into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called > >> >>> Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) > >> >>> 5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. > >> >>> So do you really think you are going to be able to change the meaning? > >> >> Yes. We're not going to allow you to change the meaning of the word > >> >> "child" to mean anything from fertilization on. > > >> > Well, take a good look at verse five. ?That was not written by me. ?It > >> > was written by a physician . > > >> Verse 5....in which translation? > > >> Hint: ?Luke was not written in English. > > >It means the same in Greek as it does in English. > > How familiar are you with ancient Greek. What word was used in Luke? > Feel free to transcribe it using the traditional Latin character > substitutes for the Greek letters, since usenet isn't necessarily > designed to support non-latin characters. > > As for your desire to believe that Luke was a physician and that he > wrote the gospel of that name, no evidence supports it. The framing of > the gospel appears to be designed to target a certain audience. Framing > is not unusual. Simon Morgenstern is a fairly famous author of a story > called The Princess Bride. Of course, there is the problem that Simon > Morgenstern never existed except in the imagination, particularly of > William Goldman, but also of everyone who suspends disbelief long enough > to enjoy the story. > > The Bible is a story. It can be fun to suspend disbelief for a while as > you read it, but you need to bring your critical facilities to bear > after a while. You do yourself no favor by deluding yourself about what > the Bible is.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The Bible is two testaments of Jesus Christ, the Old Testament and the New Testament. Robert B. Winn
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