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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:26
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On Aug 2, 9:56�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:04:19 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> in alt.atheism:
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> >On Aug 2, 9:51?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >> > On Aug 1, 7:33 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>> On Aug 1, 6:48 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:48:10 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >> >>>> in alt.atheism:
> >> >>>>> On Jul 31, 9:07?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>news:6feg2oFb88s6U1@mid.individual.net...
> >> >>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>news:03071fc3-e432-49b6-a4a5-c22bd4a879ab@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 9:45?pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >> >>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 10:47 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 1:19 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 12:11 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 9:59 am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:85ce5d7c-67c2-4090-8fd1-14d9b48f203d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are only two commandments in the Law of Christ:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love the Lord thy God, Love thy neighbor as thyself.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I draw the line at giving my neighbour hand jobs.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (as he will no doubt be relieved to hear).
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who engages in homosexuality does not love the other
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> person,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> since he is contributing to that person's damnation.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up this silly claim.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you take it up with Einstein when he returns, that idea
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> has
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with me.- Hide quoted text -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why would Einstein be interested in homosexuality?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Why would Jesus?- Hide quoted text -
> >> >>>>>>>>>> All homosexuals will be judged by Jesus, the same as with sinners of
> >> >>>>>>>>>> any kind.
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >> >>>>>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then?
> >> >>>>>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and
> >> >>>>>>>>> hypocrites. ?But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human
> >> >>>>>>>>> rights.
> >> >>>>>>>> Well, yes, I do. ? Like other atheists you campaign for abortion,
> >> >>>>>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed.
> >> >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >> >>>>>>> Stop being such an idiot.
> >> >>>>>>> Why do you equate atheism with pro-abortionism?
> >> >>>>>>> They are not the same thing.
> >> >>>>>>> You have already been corrected in your mistaken belief that all atheists
> >> >>>>>>> are pro-abortion, so why do you insist on lying?
> >> >>>>>> We may be (and I am) pro-choice, but none, AFAIK, are pro-abortion.
> >> >>>>> Pro-choice today is used interchangably with pro-abortion.
> >> >>>> Only by liars, particularly the liars who call themselves pro-life, but
> >> >>>> prove by their politics that they love killing people.
> >> >>>>> You are
> >> >>>>> not pro-choice because you are opposed to the choices that would be
> >> >>>>> made by any children killed by abortion.
> >> >>>> Children are not killed by abortion.- Hide quoted text -
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> >> >>> Well, here we are at another word besides gay that atheists are trying
> >> >>> to change the meaning of. Fortunately for Christian people, we have
> >> >>> the Bible.
> >> >>> Luke 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of
> >> >>> Nazareth, into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called
> >> >>> Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
> >> >>> 5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
> >> >>> So do you really think you are going to be able to change the meaning?
> >> >> Yes. We're not going to allow you to change the meaning of the word
> >> >> "child" to mean anything from fertilization on.
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> >> > Well, take a good look at verse five. ?That was not written by me. ?It
> >> > was written by a physician .
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> >> Verse 5....in which translation?
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> >> Hint: ?Luke was not written in English.
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> >It means the same in Greek as it does in English.
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> How familiar are you with ancient Greek. What word was used in Luke?
> Feel free to transcribe it using the traditional Latin character
> substitutes for the Greek letters, since usenet isn't necessarily
> designed to support non-latin characters.
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> As for your desire to believe that Luke was a physician and that he
> wrote the gospel of that name, no evidence supports it. The framing of
> the gospel appears to be designed to target a certain audience. Framing
> is not unusual. Simon Morgenstern is a fairly famous author of a story
> called The Princess Bride. Of course, there is the problem that Simon
> Morgenstern never existed except in the imagination, particularly of
> William Goldman, but also of everyone who suspends disbelief long enough
> to enjoy the story.
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> The Bible is a story. It can be fun to suspend disbelief for a while as
> you read it, but you need to bring your critical facilities to bear
> after a while. You do yourself no favor by deluding yourself about what
> the Bible is.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

The Bible is two testaments of Jesus Christ, the Old Testament and the
New Testament.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 23:26:22 -0700 (PDT)
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