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Article #11400Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:07
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:07
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 2, 7:23�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>
>>>> The word in question is "egkuos". This word can be defined as:
>>>> swelling inside, i.e. pregnant -- great with child.
>>>> You are using "great with child" and assuming that's what the writer of
>>>> Luke meant. Not sure how you get that, actually. Most people today
>>>> would use the word "pregnant", not the phrase "great with child".
>>> Well, what you are saying is that you believe that Luke was so feeble
>>> minded that he would have believed there was something other than a
>>> child in the womb of a pregnant woman. � Nothing he wrote would
>>> indicate that he was feeble minded.
>> No, I'm not saying that at all.
>>
> Well, you absolutely are.
Well, I'm absolutely not.
> You regard me as so stupid that you think
> you can convince me that a pregnant woman does not have a child in her
> womb.
She does not have a "child" in her womb. "Child" begins at birth.
> Why would you treat Luke any different?
First of all, Luke didn't write the Gospel of Luke. Secondly, the
Gospel of Luke was possibly written sometime in the late 1st century CE.
In the late 1st century CE, they were still using wool, cabbage, eggs,
and magic chants to cure diseases ("Natural History" by Pliny the
Elder). Most could only cure minor problems. Major medical issues were
outside the purview of even the most accomplished doctor.
Most physicians of the day were operating with numerous errors in the
anatomy of the human body because it was illegal according to Roman law
to dissect a human body, even if it was dead. These errors remained
until the Renaissance a thousand years later.
No. I'm not going to take Luke or the writer(s) of Luke seriously where
it comes to modern, 21st century CE medicine and health.
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