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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:09
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 2, 7:28�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 2, 4:22 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 2, 9:51 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 7:33 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 6:48 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:48:10 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 9:07?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:6feg2oFb88s6U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:03071fc3-e432-49b6-a4a5-c22bd4a879ab@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 9:45?pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 10:47 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 1:19 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 12:11 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 9:59 am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:85ce5d7c-67c2-4090-8fd1-14d9b48f203d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are only two commandments in the Law of Christ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love the Lord thy God, Love thy neighbor as thyself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I draw the line at giving my neighbour hand jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (as he will no doubt be relieved to hear).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who engages in homosexuality does not love the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since he is contributing to that person's damnation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up this silly claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you take it up with Einstein when he returns, that idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with me.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would Einstein be interested in homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would Jesus?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All homosexuals will be judged by Jesus, the same as with sinners of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites. ?But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes, I do. ? Like other atheists you campaign for abortion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop being such an idiot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you equate atheism with pro-abortionism?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are not the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have already been corrected in your mistaken belief that all atheists
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are pro-abortion, so why do you insist on lying?
>>>>>>>>>>>> We may be (and I am) pro-choice, but none, AFAIK, are pro-abortion.
>>>>>>>>>>> Pro-choice today is used interchangably with pro-abortion.
>>>>>>>>>> Only by liars, particularly the liars who call themselves pro-life, but
>>>>>>>>>> prove by their politics that they love killing people.
>>>>>>>>>>> You are
>>>>>>>>>>> not pro-choice because you are opposed to the choices that would be
>>>>>>>>>>> made by any children killed by abortion.
>>>>>>>>>> Children are not killed by abortion.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> Well, here we are at another word besides gay that atheists are trying
>>>>>>>>> to change the meaning of. Fortunately for Christian people, we have
>>>>>>>>> the Bible.
>>>>>>>>> Luke 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of
>>>>>>>>> Nazareth, into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called
>>>>>>>>> Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
>>>>>>>>> 5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
>>>>>>>>> So do you really think you are going to be able to change the meaning?
>>>>>>>> Yes. We're not going to allow you to change the meaning of the word
>>>>>>>> "child" to mean anything from fertilization on.
>>>>>>> Well, take a good look at verse five. That was not written by me. It
>>>>>>> was written by a physician .
>>>>>> Verse 5....in which translation?
>>>>>> Hint: Luke was not written in English.
>>>>> It means the same in Greek as it does in English.
>>>> Yes. �It doesn't say anything about "child". �It says "���� (egkuos)".
>>>> � Egkuos means pregnant.
>>> So you are saying that Luke as a physician was so ignorant that he
>>> could not tell that a pregnant woman was with child?
>> Luke didn't write the Gospel of Luke, numbnuts.
>>
>> Secondly, "with child" is not a medical term. �It is a colloquialism.
>> Are you seriously suggesting that, since some people call being pregnant
>> being "with child", that that means that there is a child in the womb?
>>
>> I was at the store today and I heard a wife call her husband a "honey
>> bunny". �Does that mean that husband is lapine in nature and is covered
>> in the thick processed pollen of flowers?
>>
> So you say you were convinced that a pregnant woman does not have a
> child in her womb because a woman at the store called her husband
> honey bunny.  

Right.  We use a lot of nonstandard words for things.

Point being, there is no actual child in the womb and the husband is not 
a rabbit.

> What you probably will want to do is to find someone who
> reads a lot of Harry Potter books and tell that person about your
> experience.  Since I read the Bible, it just does not have the same
> effect on me.

I do talk about Harry Potter... AS FICTION.


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