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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:46
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On Aug 2, 1:24�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 1, 11:58 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Aug 1, 8:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 31, 9:20 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 31, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> OnJul31, 5:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 9:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:40 pm, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 10:42:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was being an atheist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and to think that Marx himself was Jewish...- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marx said that he was an atheist. How is it that now that Communism
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has failed, all of these Communist icons are suddenly religious men?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you read filtered propaganda instead of doing any research
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their backgrounds.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I knew that Karl Marx was born to a Jewish family and became an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheist. I knew that Josef Stalin was born into a Russian Orthodox
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family and became an atheist. Those are just facts. So how do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of today hope to change the facts by claiming that these two
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals were religious men?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you believe Marx and Stalin when they claimed to be atheists?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely do. They sound just like atheists of today.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You mean, you don't think they were lying for political gain?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, they were lying for political gain
> >>>>>>>>>> Therefore, it's possible they weren't atheists.
> >>>>>>>>> Well, no, it is not possible. There were no Communist dictators who
> >>>>>>>>> were not atheists.
> >>>>>>>> ...that you will admit to existing, you mean.
> >>>>>>> Well, tell me one and we will see if I admit it.
> >>>>>> Already done with Muntzer.
> >>>>> Already done? So in what nation was he head of state?
> >>>> First, define "nation".
> >>> Just go to Merriam-Webster dictionary online. Any words you do not
> >>> understand, you can look up in a dictionary. Perhaps you did not know
> >>> about dictionaries.
> >> I know the definition of nation, moron. I want to know if YOU know the
> >> definition.
>
> > No, you don't. �
>
> How do you know?
>
> > You want to change the subject because there have not
> > been any Communist dictators who were Christian.
>
> Muntzer was a Communist dictator who was a Christian. �Does one need to
> be "head of state" to be a dictator?

As far as I can tell, Muntzer was just a religious dissident who had a
contention with Martin Luther.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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