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Article #11432Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:46
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:46
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On Aug 2, 1:24�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 1, 11:58 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 1, 8:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 31, 9:20 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 31, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> OnJul31, 5:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 9:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:40 pm, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 10:42:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was being an atheist. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and to think that Marx himself was Jewish...- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marx said that he was an atheist. How is it that now that Communism > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has failed, all of these Communist icons are suddenly religious men? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you read filtered propaganda instead of doing any research > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their backgrounds. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I knew that Karl Marx was born to a Jewish family and became an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheist. I knew that Josef Stalin was born into a Russian Orthodox > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family and became an atheist. Those are just facts. So how do > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of today hope to change the facts by claiming that these two > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals were religious men? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you believe Marx and Stalin when they claimed to be atheists? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely do. They sound just like atheists of today. > >>>>>>>>>>>> You mean, you don't think they were lying for political gain? > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, they were lying for political gain > >>>>>>>>>> Therefore, it's possible they weren't atheists. > >>>>>>>>> Well, no, it is not possible. There were no Communist dictators who > >>>>>>>>> were not atheists. > >>>>>>>> ...that you will admit to existing, you mean. > >>>>>>> Well, tell me one and we will see if I admit it. > >>>>>> Already done with Muntzer. > >>>>> Already done? So in what nation was he head of state? > >>>> First, define "nation". > >>> Just go to Merriam-Webster dictionary online. Any words you do not > >>> understand, you can look up in a dictionary. Perhaps you did not know > >>> about dictionaries. > >> I know the definition of nation, moron. I want to know if YOU know the > >> definition. > > > No, you don't. � > > How do you know? > > > You want to change the subject because there have not > > been any Communist dictators who were Christian. > > Muntzer was a Communist dictator who was a Christian. �Does one need to > be "head of state" to be a dictator? As far as I can tell, Muntzer was just a religious dissident who had a contention with Martin Luther. Robert B. Winn
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