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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 2, 1:10�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 1, 11:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 1, 8:28 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 7:05 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 8:10 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 5:52 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 10:15 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 6:14 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:9dcddedb-bce6-457f-b0c5-d9a6d2bb6bd7@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 10:04?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. ?If that was not enough for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just an old, old story.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. Three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ================================
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Several of the Harry Potter books mention Kings Cross station.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that make the Harry Potter stories true?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smiler,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you spend some more time studying it, Smiler, and decide for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself? I know that atheists are a little lacking in self-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confidence, but I think you could decide this question for yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've studied Hezekiah's Tunnel since you brought it up. I still fail to
>>>>>>>>>>>> see what its existence has to do with the truthfulness of the Bible.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, first you would have to make a decision about Hezekiah's
>>>>>>>>>>> tunnel. Does the tunnel really exist or is it just a hoax the way one
>>>>>>>>>>> atheist claimed?
>>>>>>>>>> Which atheist? Provide a quote.
>>>>>>>>>>> Then if you decide it exists, how does that relate
>>>>>>>>>>> to the description of its construction in the Old Testament? Was the
>>>>>>>>>>> tunnel seen today the tunnel described in the Old Testament, or is it
>>>>>>>>>>> some other tunnel the way atheists continue to say in this newsgroup?
>>>>>>>>>> Which atheists? Provide quotes.
>>>>>>>>>>> I know this is difficult, but it really is possible for an atheist to
>>>>>>>>>>> make a decision about this.
>>>>>>>>>>> The verses of the Bible that describe the construction of Hezekiah's
>>>>>>>>>>> tunnel are either true, or they are false. So far, having said that
>>>>>>>>>>> the Bible is only myth, atheists are not willing to admit that there
>>>>>>>>>>> are verses describing the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel that are
>>>>>>>>>>> obviously true.
>>>>>>>>>> How about this mindblower:
>>>>>>>>>> Hezekiah's Tunnel exists. The Bible talks about it. The Bible is
>>>>>>>>>> true...on this fact only...but has nothing to do with the truthfulness
>>>>>>>>>> of the Bible.
>>>>>>>>>> Look at every fiction story ever written. A great majority of them
>>>>>>>>>> write about the Earth. An even greater majority talk about humans.
>>>>>>>>>> Does that mean that the book itself is now nonfiction since it describe
>>>>>>>>>> the Earth exactly how we see it today and how humans are?
>>>>>>>>> Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted
>>>>>>>>> that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is
>>>>>>>>> true. First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction
>>>>>>>>> of something that can be observed.
>>>>>>>>> But your premise is wrong. Just because you can find a fiction book
>>>>>>>>> that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all
>>>>>>>>> books that describe something that can be seen are fiction.
>>>>>>>> Your misapprehension of his premise is noted.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> furthest you can go would be to say that the book that describes
>>>>>>>>> something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you
>>>>>>>>> cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. So you would have
>>>>>>>>> to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not
>>>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. I hope
>>>>>>>>> this will help you in your studies.
>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>> Using that logic and one data point, this means the bible is fiction
>>>>>>>> or non-fiction.
>>>>>>>> Using a second data point, say global flood, proves the bible is a
>>>>>>>> work of fiction.
>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>> Well, no it does not. What you are claiming is that if you can find a
>>>>>>> mistake or something debatable in a non-fiction book, then you have
>>>>>>> proven it is fiction.
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>> What makes a book fiction or non-fiction is the
>>>>>>> intent of the author or authors. A fiction book is an account of
>>>>>>> imaginary events.
>>>>>> ...or people.
>>>>>>> A perceived mistake in a non-fiction book can
>>>>>>> happen because of a misinterpretation of events by either the author
>>>>>>> or reader of the book.
>>>>>> So, you're saying that the Bible has mistakes?
>>>>> Yes, the Bible has mistakes.
>>>> You're in contention with many Christians who believe the Bible to be
>>>> inerrant.
>>> I am not in contention with anyone. �Why would it bother me if someone
>>> thinks the Bible is inerrant?
>> Those two sentences do not agree with each other.
>>
>> --
> Well, of course, you are welcome to your own opinion concerning any of
> this.

Yes, but it still doesn't change the fact that you can't even stay 
cohesive from sentence to sentence.

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