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Article #1147Re: Yes, Virginia, there's no superluminal communication
From: Matt Kennel
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 07:40
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 07:40
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bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner) writes: : The reason why I don't believe in Lorentz invariant quantum : "collapse" is that no one's come up with a theory of it, OK? : You can throw words around: mechanistic, nonlinear, chaotic, : but it makes no progress. Just go off and invent the theory, : please. Oh, I admit it's an outrageous suggestion and an immensely daunting task. But what is the present "theory"? "It happens by magic and there's no other explanation and there's nothing else there." Not so hot. : mbk@lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes: : >It's almost as if people don't want to bother to really look. (Why? : >Might small science actually get a Nobel Prize by accident?) : : Why? Because the chances of getting anything done are : minimal and you will have a tough time convincing anyone to : give you a job. Why? Because everybody is sure that there's nothing else there. Acutally, it's my opinion that the experimental evidence _for_ superluminal collapse is weak, and experiments testing any sort of collapse phenomena not too numerous. Most physical experiments don't depend on how collapse &cetera work, only on things like energy spectra and cross sections. Sure money's tight, but compared to space missions, and any particle physics, some small experiment with fast electronics & photomultipliers is chickenshit. : Here let us remember some advice attributed : to David Mermin: "No one should work on Bell's theorem until : after they have tenure." True. Forgetting about GR, I don't think that any sensible theory could reasonably be expected without new experimental results, though. : Ben Weiner Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!pacbell.com!network.ucsd.edu!lyapunov.ucsd.edu!mbk From: mbk@lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Yes, Virginia, there's no superluminal communication Message-ID: <se29pINNb22@network.ucsd.edu> Date: 14 Apr 92 07:40:41 GMT References: <Apr.13.17.04.11.1992.16673@ruhets.rutgers.edu> Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: lyapunov.ucsd.edu