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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:24
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 1, 11:58�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 1, 8:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 31, 9:20 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> OnJul31, 5:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 9:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:40 pm, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 10:42:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was being an atheist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and to think that Marx himself was Jewish...- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marx said that he was an atheist. How is it that now that Communism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has failed, all of these Communist icons are suddenly religious men?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you read filtered propaganda instead of doing any research
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their backgrounds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I knew that Karl Marx was born to a Jewish family and became an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheist. I knew that Josef Stalin was born into a Russian Orthodox
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family and became an atheist. Those are just facts. So how do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of today hope to change the facts by claiming that these two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals were religious men?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you believe Marx and Stalin when they claimed to be atheists?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely do. They sound just like atheists of today.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean, you don't think they were lying for political gain?
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, they were lying for political gain
>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, it's possible they weren't atheists.
>>>>>>>>> Well, no, it is not possible. There were no Communist dictators who
>>>>>>>>> were not atheists.
>>>>>>>> ...that you will admit to existing, you mean.
>>>>>>> Well, tell me one and we will see if I admit it.
>>>>>> Already done with Muntzer.
>>>>> Already done? So in what nation was he head of state?
>>>> First, define "nation".
>>> Just go to Merriam-Webster dictionary online. �Any words you do not
>>> understand, you can look up in a dictionary. �Perhaps you did not know
>>> about dictionaries.
>> I know the definition of nation, moron. �I want to know if YOU know the
>> definition.
>>
> No, you don't.  

How do you know?

> You want to change the subject because there have not
> been any Communist dictators who were Christian.

Muntzer was a Communist dictator who was a Christian.  Does one need to 
be "head of state" to be a dictator?


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