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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Aug 1, 11:54�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>> > On Aug 1, 8:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>> On Jul 31, 6:21 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>> On Jul 31, 5:52 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On Jul 30, 10:15 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 6:14 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>news:9dcddedb-bce6-457f-b0c5-d9a6d2bb6bd7@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 10:04?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text -
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> God as well.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. ?If that was not 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> enough for
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God?
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> anything at all,
>> >>>>>>>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>>>>>>> just an old, old story.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. 
>> >>>>>>>>>> Three
>> >>>>>>>>>> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction 
>> >>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ================================
>> >>>>>>>>>> Several of the Harry Potter books mention Kings Cross station.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Does that make the Harry Potter stories true?
>> >>>>>>>>>> Smiler,
>> >>>>>>>>> Why don't you spend some more time studying it, Smiler, and 
>> >>>>>>>>> decide for
>> >>>>>>>>> yourself? I know that atheists are a little lacking in self-
>> >>>>>>>>> confidence, but I think you could decide this question for 
>> >>>>>>>>> yourself.
>> >>>>>>>> I've studied Hezekiah's Tunnel since you brought it up. I still 
>> >>>>>>>> fail to
>> >>>>>>>> see what its existence has to do with the truthfulness of the 
>> >>>>>>>> Bible.
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> ******************************************************
>> >>>>>>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
>> >>>>>>> Well, first you would have to make a decision about Hezekiah's
>> >>>>>>> tunnel. Does the tunnel really exist or is it just a hoax the way 
>> >>>>>>> one
>> >>>>>>> atheist claimed?
>> >>>>>> Which atheist? Provide a quote.
>> >>>>>>> Then if you decide it exists, how does that relate
>> >>>>>>> to the description of its construction in the Old Testament? Was 
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> tunnel seen today the tunnel described in the Old Testament, or 
>> >>>>>>> is it
>> >>>>>>> some other tunnel the way atheists continue to say in this 
>> >>>>>>> newsgroup?
>> >>>>>> Which atheists? Provide quotes.
>> >>>>>>> I know this is difficult, but it really is possible for an 
>> >>>>>>> atheist to
>> >>>>>>> make a decision about this.
>> >>>>>>> The verses of the Bible that describe the construction of 
>> >>>>>>> Hezekiah's
>> >>>>>>> tunnel are either true, or they are false. So far, having said 
>> >>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>> the Bible is only myth, atheists are not willing to admit that 
>> >>>>>>> there
>> >>>>>>> are verses describing the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel that 
>> >>>>>>> are
>> >>>>>>> obviously true.
>> >>>>>> How about this mindblower:
>> >>>>>> Hezekiah's Tunnel exists. The Bible talks about it. The Bible is
>> >>>>>> true...on this fact only...but has nothing to do with the 
>> >>>>>> truthfulness
>> >>>>>> of the Bible.
>> >>>>>> Look at every fiction story ever written. A great majority of them
>> >>>>>> write about the Earth. An even greater majority talk about humans.
>> >>>>>> Does that mean that the book itself is now nonfiction since it 
>> >>>>>> describe
>> >>>>>> the Earth exactly how we see it today and how humans are?
>> >>>>> Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has 
>> >>>>> admitted
>> >>>>> that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel 
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> true. First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction
>> >>>>> of something that can be observed.
>> >>>> And that's irrelevant.
>> >>>>> But your premise is wrong. Just because you can find a fiction book
>> >>>>> that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all
>> >>>>> books that describe something that can be seen are fiction.
>> >>>> Doesn't prove they're nonfiction, either. You're starting to get it.
>> >>>> Just because a book talks about the construction of something is
>> >>>> irrelevant to the veracity of the book.
>> >>> No, it is not irrelevant.
>> >> Yes. Yes, it is.
>>
>> >>>>> The
>> >>>>> furthest you can go would be to say that the book that describes
>> >>>>> something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you
>> >>>>> cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. So you would have
>> >>>>> to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not
>> >>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. I hope
>> >>>>> this will help you in your studies.
>> >>>> When you get on to proving that God thing as non-fiction, do let me 
>> >>>> know.
>> >>>> --
>> >>> God already proved it. If you reject the atonement of Christ for your
>> >>> sins, it is your problem, not mine.
>> >> God has done nothing of the sort. Someone told you that God proved it,
>> >> but do you have any evidence that he did?
>>
>> >> PS: Your threat given vicariously through some dead guy we can't even
>> >> show to exist is summarily rejected.
>>
>> > There is no threat. �
>>
>> Sure there is. �The failure to atone for "sins" is everlasting torture.
>>
>> > You atheists say that you do not want to enter
>> > heaven. �You will get exactly what you say you want. �So where is the
>> > threat?
>> > It is a threat to give someone what they say they want?
>>
>> You've not heard of "Hell", have you?
>
> Well, but you atheists would be more miserable in the presence of God
> than you would be in the presence of Satan.  If you want to be with
> Satan, you should be allowed to be with Satan.
> Robert B. winn

What, in your wild, loony imagination, would make you think that we would " 
want to be with Satan"?

-- 
Steve O
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