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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#11503
From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 07:08
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On Aug 1, 2:30�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 1, 2:44 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> "Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>
> >>news:f92594tlm8lj47up5aa025jolsoe9f99s5@4ax.com...
>
> >>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:41:48 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>> On Jul 31, 2:44?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:ba9902aa-45b8-4191-8384-b2aa2bcaf539@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>> OnJul30, 10:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:24 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>news:1117daef-01d1-439c-be90-a8360da6f40e@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 5:35?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>news:8bbc3225-6ce9-4e20-87bd-be49c41e9cf4@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 10:25 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>news:10528fca-9095-4bde-9f41-733e311d17e4@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 7:45 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 11:47 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:ba2de014-f097-439f-9f52-a8b837118ec4@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 8:47 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, let's just try to avoid contention about it until
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> returns and convinces you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good idea. In the meantime, why don't you just shut the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuck
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, because you do not tell me what to do, Satan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uh oh!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's started calling people Satan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the first signs of a meltdown.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Robbie, why don't you get out while you can?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your mental health is at stake here.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In what way is my mental health at stake?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replace the word "Satan" with the words "Mickey Mouse" and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> come off sounding.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't care how it sounds to you. I just do what works. As I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> understand it, you atheists would rather be called Mickey
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mouse
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> than
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Satan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mickey Mousedoesnot fit you very well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> All I am trying to tell you, Robbie, is that you just happen to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> latest in a long line of Christians with mental health problems
> >>>>>>>>>>>> who
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>> come into this newsgroup, firmly entrenched in their delusions,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> only to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>> off screaming never to be heard from again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It happens to most of them when they are eventually forced to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> examine
> >>>>>>>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs properly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You cannot argue against hard reason.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just understand that we've seen and heard all of this before,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> many
> >>>>>>>>>>>> times
> >>>>>>>>>>>> over, and it is ALWAYS the theist who comes off worst.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can actually see the gradual mental deterioration in their
> >>>>>>>>>>>> posts
> >>>>>>>>>>>> over
> >>>>>>>>>>>> time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm fairly sure that no one here wishes to encourage the mental
> >>>>>>>>>>>> breakdown
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone in an already fragile mental state but please understand
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have brought nothing new here, and no matter how wonderful
> >>>>>>>>>>>> yourGod
> >>>>>>>>>>>> may
> >>>>>>>>>>>> seem
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to you at the moment, we've seen and heard it all before.
> >>>>>>>>>>> So can you tell me the day and the hour when this event is
> >>>>>>>>>>> supposed
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> happen?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Robertt B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>> No I can't.
> >>>>>>>>>> Did you think I was psychic or something?
> >>>>>>>>> Well, no. I thought that you were a false Christ.
> >>>>>>>>> ============================
> >>>>>>>>> All Christs are false, even the first one.
> >>>>>>>> Well, I think that the best person to tell your idea would be Jesus
> >>>>>>>> Christ. Why don't you take some time to tell him what you think
> >>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>> he returns to judge the earth?
> >>>>>>> Begging the question. This assumes that there even IS a Jesus to
> >>>>>>> return...and it begs the further question about whether he will ever
> >>>>>>> "return".
> >>>>>>> Tell me. What makes you think that this Jesus guy will "return"?
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>> He said he would return.
> >>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>> Within the lifetime of the people around him, according to the bible.
> >>>>> Bit late, isn't he?
> >>>>> --
> >>>> No, not late at all.
> >>> Please name the people He addressed who are alive today.
> >> This is probably where he's going to tell you about The Wandering Jew -
> >> cursed by Jesus to walk the earth until He returned.
> >> It's amazing - the mental contortions and apologetics these people put
> >> themselves through, isn't it?
>
> > Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
>
> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
>
Well, actually there is.  The apostles were witnesses of the
resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT)
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