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Article #11503Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 07:08
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 07:08
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On Aug 1, 2:30�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 1, 2:44 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >> "Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message > > >>news:f92594tlm8lj47up5aa025jolsoe9f99s5@4ax.com... > > >>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:41:48 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >>>> On Jul 31, 2:44?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>news:ba9902aa-45b8-4191-8384-b2aa2bcaf539@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>> OnJul30, 10:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:24 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>news:1117daef-01d1-439c-be90-a8360da6f40e@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 5:35?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>news:8bbc3225-6ce9-4e20-87bd-be49c41e9cf4@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 10:25 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>news:10528fca-9095-4bde-9f41-733e311d17e4@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 7:45 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 11:47 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:ba2de014-f097-439f-9f52-a8b837118ec4@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 8:47 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, let's just try to avoid contention about it until > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> returns and convinces you. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good idea. In the meantime, why don't you just shut the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuck > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, because you do not tell me what to do, Satan. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uh oh! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's started calling people Satan. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the first signs of a meltdown. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Robbie, why don't you get out while you can? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your mental health is at stake here. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In what way is my mental health at stake? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replace the word "Satan" with the words "Mickey Mouse" and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> come off sounding. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't care how it sounds to you. I just do what works. As I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> understand it, you atheists would rather be called Mickey > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mouse > >>>>>>>>>>>>> than > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Satan. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mickey Mousedoesnot fit you very well. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>> All I am trying to tell you, Robbie, is that you just happen to > >>>>>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> latest in a long line of Christians with mental health problems > >>>>>>>>>>>> who > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>> come into this newsgroup, firmly entrenched in their delusions, > >>>>>>>>>>>> only to > >>>>>>>>>>>> run > >>>>>>>>>>>> off screaming never to be heard from again. > >>>>>>>>>>>> It happens to most of them when they are eventually forced to > >>>>>>>>>>>> examine > >>>>>>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs properly. > >>>>>>>>>>>> You cannot argue against hard reason. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Just understand that we've seen and heard all of this before, > >>>>>>>>>>>> many > >>>>>>>>>>>> times > >>>>>>>>>>>> over, and it is ALWAYS the theist who comes off worst. > >>>>>>>>>>>> You can actually see the gradual mental deterioration in their > >>>>>>>>>>>> posts > >>>>>>>>>>>> over > >>>>>>>>>>>> time. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm fairly sure that no one here wishes to encourage the mental > >>>>>>>>>>>> breakdown > >>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone in an already fragile mental state but please understand > >>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>>> have brought nothing new here, and no matter how wonderful > >>>>>>>>>>>> yourGod > >>>>>>>>>>>> may > >>>>>>>>>>>> seem > >>>>>>>>>>>> to you at the moment, we've seen and heard it all before. > >>>>>>>>>>> So can you tell me the day and the hour when this event is > >>>>>>>>>>> supposed > >>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> happen? > >>>>>>>>>>> Robertt B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>> No I can't. > >>>>>>>>>> Did you think I was psychic or something? > >>>>>>>>> Well, no. I thought that you were a false Christ. > >>>>>>>>> ============================ > >>>>>>>>> All Christs are false, even the first one. > >>>>>>>> Well, I think that the best person to tell your idea would be Jesus > >>>>>>>> Christ. Why don't you take some time to tell him what you think > >>>>>>>> when > >>>>>>>> he returns to judge the earth? > >>>>>>> Begging the question. This assumes that there even IS a Jesus to > >>>>>>> return...and it begs the further question about whether he will ever > >>>>>>> "return". > >>>>>>> Tell me. What makes you think that this Jesus guy will "return"? > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>> He said he would return. > >>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>> Within the lifetime of the people around him, according to the bible. > >>>>> Bit late, isn't he? > >>>>> -- > >>>> No, not late at all. > >>> Please name the people He addressed who are alive today. > >> This is probably where he's going to tell you about The Wandering Jew - > >> cursed by Jesus to walk the earth until He returned. > >> It's amazing - the mental contortions and apologetics these people put > >> themselves through, isn't it? > > > Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > > No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. Robert B. Winn
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