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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:09
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 1, 2:30�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 1, 2:44 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>> "Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>>>> news:f92594tlm8lj47up5aa025jolsoe9f99s5@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:41:48 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2:44?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ba9902aa-45b8-4191-8384-b2aa2bcaf539@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 10:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:24 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:1117daef-01d1-439c-be90-a8360da6f40e@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 5:35?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:8bbc3225-6ce9-4e20-87bd-be49c41e9cf4@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 10:25 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:10528fca-9095-4bde-9f41-733e311d17e4@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 7:45 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 11:47 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ba2de014-f097-439f-9f52-a8b837118ec4@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 8:47 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, let's just try to avoid contention about it until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> returns and convinces you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good idea. In the meantime, why don't you just shut the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, because you do not tell me what to do, Satan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uh oh!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's started calling people Satan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the first signs of a meltdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Robbie, why don't you get out while you can?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your mental health is at stake here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In what way is my mental health at stake?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replace the word "Satan" with the words "Mickey Mouse" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come off sounding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't care how it sounds to you. I just do what works. As I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand it, you atheists would rather be called Mickey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mouse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mickey Mousedoesnot fit you very well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I am trying to tell you, Robbie, is that you just happen to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest in a long line of Christians with mental health problems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come into this newsgroup, firmly entrenched in their delusions,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off screaming never to be heard from again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It happens to most of them when they are eventually forced to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs properly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You cannot argue against hard reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just understand that we've seen and heard all of this before,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over, and it is ALWAYS the theist who comes off worst.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can actually see the gradual mental deterioration in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm fairly sure that no one here wishes to encourage the mental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breakdown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone in an already fragile mental state but please understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have brought nothing new here, and no matter how wonderful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourGod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you at the moment, we've seen and heard it all before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So can you tell me the day and the hour when this event is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robertt B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>> No I can't.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you think I was psychic or something?
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, no. I thought that you were a false Christ.
>>>>>>>>>>> ============================
>>>>>>>>>>> All Christs are false, even the first one.
>>>>>>>>>> Well, I think that the best person to tell your idea would be Jesus
>>>>>>>>>> Christ. Why don't you take some time to tell him what you think
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> he returns to judge the earth?
>>>>>>>>> Begging the question. This assumes that there even IS a Jesus to
>>>>>>>>> return...and it begs the further question about whether he will ever
>>>>>>>>> "return".
>>>>>>>>> Tell me. What makes you think that this Jesus guy will "return"?
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> He said he would return.
>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>> Within the lifetime of the people around him, according to the bible.
>>>>>>> Bit late, isn't he?
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> No, not late at all.
>>>>> Please name the people He addressed who are alive today.
>>>> This is probably where he's going to tell you about The Wandering Jew -
>>>> cursed by Jesus to walk the earth until He returned.
>>>> It's amazing - the mental contortions and apologetics these people put
>>>> themselves through, isn't it?
>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
>>
> Well, actually there is.  The apostles were witnesses of the
> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.

That's not proof.  That's a story.

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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226          *
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* Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He *
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