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On Aug 2, 5:59 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Aug 1, 4:39 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
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> > On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:11:50 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> > in alt.atheism:
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> > >On Jul 31, 6:21?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >> rbwinn wrote:
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> > >> > Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted
> > >> > that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is
> > >> > true. ?First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction
> > >> > of something that can be observed.
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> > >> And that's irrelevant.
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> > >> > But your premise is wrong. ?Just because you can find a fiction book
> > >> > that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all
> > >> > books that describe something that can be seen are fiction.
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> > >> Doesn't prove they're nonfiction, either. ?You're starting to get it.
> > >> Just because a book talks about the construction of something is
> > >> irrelevant to the veracity of the book.
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> > >No, it is not irrelevant.
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> > Sure it is.
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> > >> > ?The
> > >> > furthest you can go ?would be to say that the book that describes
> > >> > something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you
> > >> > cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. ?So you would have
> > >> > to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not
> > >> > Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. ?I hope
> > >> > this will help you in your studies.
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> > >> When you get on to proving that God thing as non-fiction, do let me know.
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> > >God already proved it. If you reject the atonement of Christ for your
> > >sins, it is your problem, not mine.
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> > God proved nothing. There is no evidence that the Bible has anything to
> > do with God. There is no evidence that God exists. There is no evidence
> > that the doctrine of atonement is true. There is no evidence for a soul,
> > an afterlife, heaven or hell. These doctrines are derived from a book
> > that contains many, many serious errors of fact, yet you want us to
> > believe doctrines that are completely unsupported by any evidence. When
> > we are skeptical about this nonsense, you try to threaten us with a
> > completely unbelievable and totally unsubstantiated judgement.
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> > It's no wonder that no one here takes you seriously. You just aren't
> > being serious here. You try to sell a completely dishonest,
> > unsupportable religion to us and get mad at us when we aren't persuaded.- Hide quoted text -
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> Well, rejecting the atonement of Christ seems very foolish to me, but
> you are going to have to make your own decision about it.  So find out
> for yourself whether the Bible is true.
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We know Jesus was perhaps a criminal in the past and was nailed to be
killed.
Whether this happen as a fact or not is immaterial since there is no
bearing to human then, and don't even matter to us in any way now.
We do not need his dying for sins then and what is there to benefit
from him now?
The bible is full of accounts that contradicted itself and therefore
false.....and you do not wish to acknowledge?????