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Article #11510Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:25
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:25
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On Aug 2, 7:39 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:59:18 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >On Aug 1, 4:39?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:11:50 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >> in alt.atheism: > > >> >On Jul 31, 6:21?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> ... > >> >> > Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted > >> >> > that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is > >> >> > true. ?First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction > >> >> > of something that can be observed. > > >> >> And that's irrelevant. > > >> >> > But your premise is wrong. ?Just because you can find a fiction book > >> >> > that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all > >> >> > books that describe something that can be seen are fiction. > > >> >> Doesn't prove they're nonfiction, either. ?You're starting to get it. > >> >> Just because a book talks about the construction of something is > >> >> irrelevant to the veracity of the book. > > >> >No, it is not irrelevant. > > >> Sure it is. > > >> >> > ?The > >> >> > furthest you can go ?would be to say that the book that describes > >> >> > something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you > >> >> > cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. ?So you would have > >> >> > to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not > >> >> > Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. ?I hope > >> >> > this will help you in your studies. > > >> >> When you get on to proving that God thing as non-fiction, do let me know. > > >> >God already proved it. ?If you reject the atonement of Christ for your > >> >sins, it is your problem, not mine. > > >> God proved nothing. There is no evidence that the Bible has anything to > >> do with God. There is no evidence that God exists. There is no evidence > >> that the doctrine of atonement is true. There is no evidence for a soul, > >> an afterlife, heaven or hell. These doctrines are derived from a book > >> that contains many, many serious errors of fact, yet you want us to > >> believe doctrines that are completely unsupported by any evidence. When > >> we are skeptical about this nonsense, you try to threaten us with a > >> completely unbelievable and totally unsubstantiated judgement. > > >> It's no wonder that no one here takes you seriously. You just aren't > >> being serious here. You try to sell a completely dishonest, > >> unsupportable religion to us and get mad at us when we aren't persuaded.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, rejecting the atonement of Christ seems very foolish to me, but > >you are going to have to make your own decision about it. So find out > >for yourself whether the Bible is true. > > I don't reject atonement. I reject fantasy stories that are completely > without foundation.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - What atonement.? The ancient people of the small number of abcient Jews invented stories to fool people....atonement?
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