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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 31, 7:05�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> On Aug 1, 8:10 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jul 31, 5:52 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 30, 10:15 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 6:14 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:9dcddedb-bce6-457f-b0c5-d9a6d2bb6bd7@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 10:04?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some
>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> God as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. ?If that was not enough for
>>>>>>>>>> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything.
>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God?
>>>>>>>>> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all,
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> just an old, old story.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. Three
>>>>>>>> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of
>>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
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>>>>>>>> Several of the Harry Potter books mention Kings Cross station.
>>>>>>>> Does that make the Harry Potter stories true?
>>>>>>>> Smiler,
>>>>>>> Why don't you spend some more time studying it, Smiler, and decide for
>>>>>>> yourself? I know that atheists are a little lacking in self-
>>>>>>> confidence, but I think you could decide this question for yourself.
>>>>>> I've studied Hezekiah's Tunnel since you brought it up. I still fail to
>>>>>> see what its existence has to do with the truthfulness of the Bible.
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
>>>>> Well, first you would have to make a decision about Hezekiah's
>>>>> tunnel. Does the tunnel really exist or is it just a hoax the way one
>>>>> atheist claimed?
>>>> Which atheist? Provide a quote.
>>>>> Then if you decide it exists, how does that relate
>>>>> to the description of its construction in the Old Testament? Was the
>>>>> tunnel seen today the tunnel described in the Old Testament, or is it
>>>>> some other tunnel the way atheists continue to say in this newsgroup?
>>>> Which atheists? Provide quotes.
>>>>> I know this is difficult, but it really is possible for an atheist to
>>>>> make a decision about this.
>>>>> The verses of the Bible that describe the construction of Hezekiah's
>>>>> tunnel are either true, or they are false. So far, having said that
>>>>> the Bible is only myth, atheists are not willing to admit that there
>>>>> are verses describing the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel that are
>>>>> obviously true.
>>>> How about this mindblower:
>>>> Hezekiah's Tunnel exists. The Bible talks about it. The Bible is
>>>> true...on this fact only...but has nothing to do with the truthfulness
>>>> of the Bible.
>>>> Look at every fiction story ever written. A great majority of them
>>>> write about the Earth. An even greater majority talk about humans.
>>>> Does that mean that the book itself is now nonfiction since it describe
>>>> the Earth exactly how we see it today and how humans are?
>>> Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted
>>> that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is
>>> true. �First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction
>>> of something that can be observed.
>>> But your premise is wrong. �Just because you can find a fiction book
>>> that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all
>>> books that describe something that can be seen are fiction.
>> Your misapprehension of his premise is noted.
>>
>>> The
>>> furthest you can go �would be to say that the book that describes
>>> something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you
>>> cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. �So you would have
>>> to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not
>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. �I hope
>>> this will help you in your studies.
>> Yes.
>> Using that logic and one data point, this means the bible is fiction
>> or non-fiction.
>> Using a second data point, say global flood, proves the bible is a
>> work of fiction.
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> 
> Well, no it does not.  What you are claiming is that if you can find a
> mistake or something debatable in a non-fiction book, then you have
> proven it is fiction.  

No.

> What makes a book fiction or non-fiction is the
> intent of the author or authors.  A fiction book is an account of
> imaginary events.  

...or people.

> A perceived mistake in a non-fiction book can
> happen because of a misinterpretation of events by either the author
> or reader of the book.

So, you're saying that the Bible has mistakes?


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