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Article #11548Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:29
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:29
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 31, 8:55�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 31, 2:47 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>> news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >>>>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >>>>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard >>>>>>>>>>>>> of, they >>>>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. >>>>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'. >>>>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod >>>>>>>>>>>> would be >>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted >>>>>>>>>>>> text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste >>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no >>>>>>>>>> one_ >>>>>>>>>> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around >>>>>>>>> lying about it. >>>>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the >>>>>>>> Twelve.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not >>>>>>> been ordained. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> I am an apostle. >>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>> So who ordained you an apostle? >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> You did. >>>> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle, >>>> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle. >>>> It's right up there, in the text. >>>> -- >>>> Steve O >>> Paul was ordained an apostle. �Al was not. >> I ordain Al as an apostle. >> >> -- > You would have to be an apostle to ordain an apostle. I've already been ordained an apostle. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
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