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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#11548
From: DanielSan
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:29
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 31, 8:55�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 31, 2:47 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod
>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted
>>>>>>>>>>>> text -
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no
>>>>>>>>>> one_
>>>>>>>>>> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around
>>>>>>>>> lying about it.
>>>>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the
>>>>>>>> Twelve.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not
>>>>>>> been ordained.
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>> I am an apostle.
>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> You did.
>>>> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle,
>>>> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle.
>>>> It's right up there, in the text.
>>>> --
>>>> Steve O
>>> Paul was ordained an apostle. �Al was not.
>> I ordain Al as an apostle.
>>
>> --
> You would have to be an apostle to ordain an apostle.

I've already been ordained an apostle.


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