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On Aug 1, 8:28�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 7:05 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> On Aug 1, 8:10 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 31, 5:52 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 30, 10:15 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 30, 6:14 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>news:9dcddedb-bce6-457f-b0c5-d9a6d2bb6bd7@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 10:04?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some
> >>>>>>>>>>> evidence
> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> God as well.
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. ?If that was not enough for
> >>>>>>>>>> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything.
> >>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God?
> >>>>>>>>> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all,
> >>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>> just an old, old story.
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. Three
> >>>>>>>> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of
> >>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
> >>>>>>>> ================================
> >>>>>>>> Several of the Harry Potter books mention Kings Cross station.
> >>>>>>>> Does that make the Harry Potter stories true?
> >>>>>>>> Smiler,
> >>>>>>> Why don't you spend some more time studying it, Smiler, and decide for
> >>>>>>> yourself? I know that atheists are a little lacking in self-
> >>>>>>> confidence, but I think you could decide this question for yourself.
> >>>>>> I've studied Hezekiah's Tunnel since you brought it up. I still fail to
> >>>>>> see what its existence has to do with the truthfulness of the Bible.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> ******************************************************
> >>>>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
> >>>>> Well, first you would have to make a decision about Hezekiah's
> >>>>> tunnel. Does the tunnel really exist or is it just a hoax the way one
> >>>>> atheist claimed?
> >>>> Which atheist? Provide a quote.
> >>>>> Then if you decide it exists, how does that relate
> >>>>> to the description of its construction in the Old Testament? Was the
> >>>>> tunnel seen today the tunnel described in the Old Testament, or is it
> >>>>> some other tunnel the way atheists continue to say in this newsgroup?
> >>>> Which atheists? Provide quotes.
> >>>>> I know this is difficult, but it really is possible for an atheist to
> >>>>> make a decision about this.
> >>>>> The verses of the Bible that describe the construction of Hezekiah's
> >>>>> tunnel are either true, or they are false. So far, having said that
> >>>>> the Bible is only myth, atheists are not willing to admit that there
> >>>>> are verses describing the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel that are
> >>>>> obviously true.
> >>>> How about this mindblower:
> >>>> Hezekiah's Tunnel exists. The Bible talks about it. The Bible is
> >>>> true...on this fact only...but has nothing to do with the truthfulness
> >>>> of the Bible.
> >>>> Look at every fiction story ever written. A great majority of them
> >>>> write about the Earth. An even greater majority talk about humans.
> >>>> Does that mean that the book itself is now nonfiction since it describe
> >>>> the Earth exactly how we see it today and how humans are?
> >>> Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted
> >>> that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is
> >>> true. First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction
> >>> of something that can be observed.
> >>> But your premise is wrong. Just because you can find a fiction book
> >>> that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all
> >>> books that describe something that can be seen are fiction.
> >> Your misapprehension of his premise is noted.
>
> >>> The
> >>> furthest you can go would be to say that the book that describes
> >>> something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you
> >>> cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. So you would have
> >>> to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not
> >>> Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. I hope
> >>> this will help you in your studies.
> >> Yes.
> >> Using that logic and one data point, this means the bible is fiction
> >> or non-fiction.
> >> Using a second data point, say global flood, proves the bible is a
> >> work of fiction.
>
> >> Al- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Well, no it does not. �What you are claiming is that if you can find a
> > mistake or something debatable in a non-fiction book, then you have
> > proven it is fiction. �
>
> No.
>
> > What makes a book fiction or non-fiction is the
> > intent of the author or authors. �A fiction book is an account of
> > imaginary events. �
>
> ...or people.
>
> > A perceived mistake in a non-fiction book can
> > happen because of a misinterpretation of events by either the author
> > or reader of the book.
>
> So, you're saying that the Bible has mistakes?
>
Yes, the Bible has mistakes.
Robert B. Winn