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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#11599
From: DanielSan
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:56
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 1, 8:29�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 31, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 31, 2:47 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste
>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no
>>>>>>>>>>>> one_
>>>>>>>>>>>> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around
>>>>>>>>>>> lying about it.
>>>>>>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the
>>>>>>>>>> Twelve.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not
>>>>>>>>> been ordained.
>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>> I am an apostle.
>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>> You did.
>>>>>> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle,
>>>>>> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle.
>>>>>> It's right up there, in the text.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>> Paul was ordained an apostle. Al was not.
>>>> I ordain Al as an apostle.
>>>> --
>>> You would have to be an apostle to ordain an apostle.
>> I've already been ordained an apostle.
>>
> So who ordained you an apostle?

God.


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