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Article #11599Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:56
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:56
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rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 1, 8:29�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 31, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 31, 2:47 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of, they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste >>>>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no >>>>>>>>>>>> one_ >>>>>>>>>>>> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around >>>>>>>>>>> lying about it. >>>>>>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the >>>>>>>>>> Twelve.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not >>>>>>>>> been ordained. >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>> I am an apostle. >>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> So who ordained you an apostle? >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> You did. >>>>>> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle, >>>>>> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle. >>>>>> It's right up there, in the text. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Steve O >>>>> Paul was ordained an apostle. Al was not. >>>> I ordain Al as an apostle. >>>> -- >>> You would have to be an apostle to ordain an apostle. >> I've already been ordained an apostle. >> > So who ordained you an apostle? God. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
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