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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:25
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On Aug 1, 5:57�am, Masked Avenger <cootey...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, really, aren't you talking about communism and totalitarianism?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does atheism have to do with it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was being an atheist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And...?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cite?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, just go ahead and list all of the Communist dictators who were
> >>>>>>>>>>> Christians, Daniel.
> >>>>>>>>>> Thomas M ntzer, for starters.
> >>>>>>>>>> I have more, but I think even one example destroys your guess that
> >>>>>>>>>> religious people are not allowed to be communist dictators.
> >>>>>>>>>> By the way, check out this quote from tienne Cabet: "Communism is
> >>>>>>>>>> Christianity... it is pure Christianity, before it was corrupted by
> >>>>>>>>>> Catholicism."
> >>>>>>>>> Never heard of Thomas Muntzer.
> >>>>>>>> Then this is an opportunity for you to do research. Seek and ye shall find.
> >>>>>>>>> Etienne Cabet sent a colony to Nauvoo,
> >>>>>>>>> Illinois, to take over the houses left by members of the Church of
> >>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints who were driven from the city by
> >>>>>>>>> mobs. The Communist colony failed.
> >>>>>>>> Irrelevant.
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Well, I do not think it was irrelevant.
> >>>>>> It is irrelevant to whether Christians can be communist and whether
> >>>>>> Christians can become communist dictators.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>> Well, it was not irrelevant at the time, just as it is not irrelevant
> >>>>> now whether independent voters are allowed to run for office in this
> >>>>> country.
> >>>> Um, what?
> >>> Since the election of 1800 political party politicians have passed
> >>> laws at state level designed to keep independent voters from running
> >>> for public office.
> >> What has that got to do with Christian Communistic Dictators?
>
> >> (And independent voters can't run for public office?! WHAT?!)
>
> >> --
> > Political party politicians are passing laws as we speak to prevent
> > independent voters from running for office. �In Arizona, the state
> > where I live, an independent voter is required to obtain about 20,000
> > nomination petition signatures to appear on the ballot for the same
> > office a major party candidate is required to obtain 3,000 signatures
> > to appear on the ballot.
> > States like Alabama, Oregon, and Pennsylvania have been passing
> > similar laws designed to insure that independent voters cannot compete
> > with party candidates for ballot access.
> > Robert B. Winn
>
> OK ...... I'm lost now ...... can we back up a bit here ?
> How does people moving into vacant Mormon Houses and Independent voters
> running or not running for office in Arizona, relate to whether or not a
> Communist can be a Christian OR a Christian can be a communist Dictator ??
> Bob ...... can you please just TRY and stay on one topic for at least a
> few posts ? My head is hurting from trying to follow your logic ( or
> what passes for it ) up hill and down dale ..... through hoops and under
> fences .....
>
> --
> MA ....Yoiks .... and away .....
>
> Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity
> ............. and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
> � - A. Einstein
>
> Does Schr�dinger's cat have 18 half lives ?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, follow what you want to follow.  I never told you to follow me.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:25:04 -0700 (PDT)
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