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Article #11618Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:25
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:25
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On Aug 1, 5:57�am, Masked Avenger <cootey...@yahoo.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, really, aren't you talking about communism and totalitarianism? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does atheism have to do with it? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was being an atheist. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people. > >>>>>>>>>>>> And...? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cite? > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, just go ahead and list all of the Communist dictators who were > >>>>>>>>>>> Christians, Daniel. > >>>>>>>>>> Thomas M ntzer, for starters. > >>>>>>>>>> I have more, but I think even one example destroys your guess that > >>>>>>>>>> religious people are not allowed to be communist dictators. > >>>>>>>>>> By the way, check out this quote from tienne Cabet: "Communism is > >>>>>>>>>> Christianity... it is pure Christianity, before it was corrupted by > >>>>>>>>>> Catholicism." > >>>>>>>>> Never heard of Thomas Muntzer. > >>>>>>>> Then this is an opportunity for you to do research. Seek and ye shall find. > >>>>>>>>> Etienne Cabet sent a colony to Nauvoo, > >>>>>>>>> Illinois, to take over the houses left by members of the Church of > >>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints who were driven from the city by > >>>>>>>>> mobs. The Communist colony failed. > >>>>>>>> Irrelevant. > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Well, I do not think it was irrelevant. > >>>>>> It is irrelevant to whether Christians can be communist and whether > >>>>>> Christians can become communist dictators. > >>>>>> -- > >>>>> Well, it was not irrelevant at the time, just as it is not irrelevant > >>>>> now whether independent voters are allowed to run for office in this > >>>>> country. > >>>> Um, what? > >>> Since the election of 1800 political party politicians have passed > >>> laws at state level designed to keep independent voters from running > >>> for public office. > >> What has that got to do with Christian Communistic Dictators? > > >> (And independent voters can't run for public office?! WHAT?!) > > >> -- > > Political party politicians are passing laws as we speak to prevent > > independent voters from running for office. �In Arizona, the state > > where I live, an independent voter is required to obtain about 20,000 > > nomination petition signatures to appear on the ballot for the same > > office a major party candidate is required to obtain 3,000 signatures > > to appear on the ballot. > > States like Alabama, Oregon, and Pennsylvania have been passing > > similar laws designed to insure that independent voters cannot compete > > with party candidates for ballot access. > > Robert B. Winn > > OK ...... I'm lost now ...... can we back up a bit here ? > How does people moving into vacant Mormon Houses and Independent voters > running or not running for office in Arizona, relate to whether or not a > Communist can be a Christian OR a Christian can be a communist Dictator ?? > Bob ...... can you please just TRY and stay on one topic for at least a > few posts ? My head is hurting from trying to follow your logic ( or > what passes for it ) up hill and down dale ..... through hoops and under > fences ..... > > -- > MA ....Yoiks .... and away ..... > > Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity > ............. and I'm not sure about the Universe .......... > � - A. Einstein > > Does Schr�dinger's cat have 18 half lives ?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, follow what you want to follow. I never told you to follow me. Robert B. Winn
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