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On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:59:18 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote
in alt.atheism:

>On Aug 1, 4:39?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:11:50 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
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>> >On Jul 31, 6:21?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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>> >> > Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted
>> >> > that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is
>> >> > true. ?First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction
>> >> > of something that can be observed.
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>> >> And that's irrelevant.
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>> >> > But your premise is wrong. ?Just because you can find a fiction book
>> >> > that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all
>> >> > books that describe something that can be seen are fiction.
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>> >> Doesn't prove they're nonfiction, either. ?You're starting to get it.
>> >> Just because a book talks about the construction of something is
>> >> irrelevant to the veracity of the book.
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>> >No, it is not irrelevant.
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>> Sure it is.
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>> >> > ?The
>> >> > furthest you can go ?would be to say that the book that describes
>> >> > something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you
>> >> > cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. ?So you would have
>> >> > to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not
>> >> > Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. ?I hope
>> >> > this will help you in your studies.
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>> >> When you get on to proving that God thing as non-fiction, do let me know.
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>> >God already proved it. ?If you reject the atonement of Christ for your
>> >sins, it is your problem, not mine.
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>> God proved nothing. There is no evidence that the Bible has anything to
>> do with God. There is no evidence that God exists. There is no evidence
>> that the doctrine of atonement is true. There is no evidence for a soul,
>> an afterlife, heaven or hell. These doctrines are derived from a book
>> that contains many, many serious errors of fact, yet you want us to
>> believe doctrines that are completely unsupported by any evidence. When
>> we are skeptical about this nonsense, you try to threaten us with a
>> completely unbelievable and totally unsubstantiated judgement.
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>> It's no wonder that no one here takes you seriously. You just aren't
>> being serious here. You try to sell a completely dishonest,
>> unsupportable religion to us and get mad at us when we aren't persuaded.- Hide quoted text -
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>Well, rejecting the atonement of Christ seems very foolish to me, but
>you are going to have to make your own decision about it.  So find out
>for yourself whether the Bible is true.

I don't reject atonement. I reject fantasy stories that are completely
without foundation.