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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#11642
From: Steve O
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:49
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Jul 31, 6:01�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>> > OnJul30, 10:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>> OnJul30, 6:24 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>> >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:1117daef-01d1-439c-be90-a8360da6f40e@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>> OnJul30, 5:35?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:8bbc3225-6ce9-4e20-87bd-be49c41e9cf4@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>> OnJul21, 10:25 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>news:10528fca-9095-4bde-9f41-733e311d17e4@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>>>> OnJul21, 7:45 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 11:47 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>news:ba2de014-f097-439f-9f52-a8b837118ec4@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 8:47 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, let's just try to avoid contention about it until 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> returns and convinces you.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Good idea. In the meantime, why don't you just shut the 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fuck
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> up.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, because you do not tell me what to do, Satan.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Uh oh!
>> >>>>>>>>>>> He's started calling people Satan.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> One of the first signs of a meltdown.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Look, Robbie, why don't you get out while you can?
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Your mental health is at stake here.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>> In what way is my mental health at stake?
>> >>>>>>>>> Replace the word "Satan" with the words "Mickey Mouse" and see 
>> >>>>>>>>> how
>> >>>>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>>> come off sounding.
>> >>>>>>>> I don't care how it sounds to you. I just do what works. As I
>> >>>>>>>> understand it, you atheists would rather be called Mickey Mouse 
>> >>>>>>>> than
>> >>>>>>>> Satan.
>> >>>>>>>> Mickey Mousedoesnot fit you very well.
>> >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>> >>>>>>> All I am trying to tell you, Robbie, is that you just happen to 
>> >>>>>>> be the
>> >>>>>>> latest in a long line of Christians with mental health problems 
>> >>>>>>> who
>> >>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>> come into this newsgroup, firmly entrenched in their delusions, 
>> >>>>>>> only to
>> >>>>>>> run
>> >>>>>>> off screaming never to be heard from again.
>> >>>>>>> It happens to most of them when they are eventually forced to 
>> >>>>>>> examine
>> >>>>>>> their
>> >>>>>>> beliefs properly.
>> >>>>>>> You cannot argue against hard reason.
>> >>>>>>> Just understand that we've seen and heard all of this before, 
>> >>>>>>> many
>> >>>>>>> times
>> >>>>>>> over, and it is ALWAYS the theist who comes off worst.
>> >>>>>>> You can actually see the gradual mental deterioration in their 
>> >>>>>>> posts
>> >>>>>>> over
>> >>>>>>> time.
>> >>>>>>> I'm fairly sure that no one here wishes to encourage the mental
>> >>>>>>> breakdown
>> >>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>> anyone in an already fragile mental state but please understand 
>> >>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>> have brought nothing new here, and no matter how wonderful 
>> >>>>>>> yourGodmay
>> >>>>>>> seem
>> >>>>>>> to you at the moment, we've seen and heard it all before.
>> >>>>>> So can you tell me the day and the hour when this event is 
>> >>>>>> supposed to
>> >>>>>> happen?
>> >>>>>> Robertt B. Winn
>> >>>>> No I can't.
>> >>>>> Did you think I was psychic or something?
>> >>>> Well, no. I thought that you were a false Christ.
>> >>>> ============================
>> >>>> All Christs are false, even the first one.
>> >>> Well, I think that the best person to tell your idea would be Jesus
>> >>> Christ. Why don't you take some time to tell him what you think when
>> >>> he returns to judge the earth?
>> >> Begging the question. This assumes that there even IS a Jesus to
>> >> return...and it begs the further question about whether he will ever
>> >> "return".
>>
>> >> Tell me. What makes you think that this Jesus guy will "return"?
>>
>> >> --
>> > He said he would return.
>>
>> No, someone told you he would return. �Why do you trust this third party?
>>
>
> Well, it was the Holy Ghost.  The Holy Ghost bears witness of all
> truth.
> Robert B. Winn

Are you saying that The Holy Ghost personally told you that Jesus would 
return, or yet again, has this information been delivered to you via a third 
party?
(And, coincidentally, has that third party ever asked you for money as 
well?)

-- 
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
Convicted by Earthquack
Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence

 
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From: "Steve O" <nospamhere@thanks.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:49:20 +0100
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