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On Jul 31, 6:11�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
<alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> On Aug 1, 6:19 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > On Jul 31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
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> > > > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > > > > <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
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> > > > > >On Jul 30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> > > > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > > > > >> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
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> > > > > >> >On Jul 22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > > > > >> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
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> > > > > >> >> >On Jul 21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > > > > >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
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> > > > > >> >> >> >On Jul 21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > > > > >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
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> > > > > >> >> >> >> >On Jul 20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
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> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
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> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
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> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it.
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> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
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> > > > > >> >> >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >twelve?
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> > > > > >> >> >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you insist on making
> > > > > >> >> >> >> a fool of yourself.
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> > > > > >> >> >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
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> > > > > >> >> >> >> If there were a God, He would strike you down for being such a bad
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> > > > > >> >> >> >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul says he is an
> > > > > >> >> >> >apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many atheists of
> > > > > >> >> >> >today say he was not.
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> > > > > >> >> >> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. Nowhere in
> > > > > >> >> >> the entire Bible does it say that Paul was one of the Twelve. That was a
> > > > > >> >> >> claim you made up that was not true.
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> > > > > >> >> >> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > >> >> >Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they
> > > > > >> >> >rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
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> > > > > >> >> So, as you can see, apostle does not mean 'one of the Twelve'.
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> > > > > >> >> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Your god would be
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> > > > > >> >Well, yes it does mean ?one of the Twelve.
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> > > > > >> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste some
> > > > > >> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no one_
> > > > > >> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > >Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around
> > > > > >lying about it.
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> > > > > You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the
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> > > > He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not
> > > > been ordained.
> > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > I am an apostle.
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> > > Al- Hide quoted text -
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> > So who ordained you an apostle?
> > Robert B. Winn
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> Me, just then.
> Much more direct evidence now, that I am an apostle than you have for
> these other characters.
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Hebrews 5:4  And no man taketh this honor unto himself.

An apostle has to be ordained by an apostle.
Robert B. Winn