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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:38
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On Jul 31, 8:55�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 2:47 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> >>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
> >>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
> >>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide
> >>>>>>>>>>>> quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard
> >>>>>>>>>>> of, they
> >>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
> >>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'.
> >>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod
> >>>>>>>>>> would be
> >>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted
> >>>>>>>>>> text -
> >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve.
> >>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste
> >>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no
> >>>>>>>> one_
> >>>>>>>> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around
> >>>>>>> lying about it.
> >>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the
> >>>>>> Twelve.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not
> >>>>> been ordained.
> >>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>> I am an apostle.
> >>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>> So who ordained you an apostle?
> >>> Robert B. Winn
> >> You did.
> >> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle,
> >> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle.
> >> It's right up there, in the text.
>
> >> --
> >> Steve O
> > Paul was ordained an apostle. �Al was not.
>
> I ordain Al as an apostle.
>
> --
You would have to be an apostle to ordain an apostle.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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