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Article #11653Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:38
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:38
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On Jul 31, 8:55�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2:47 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > >>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > >>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > >>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > >>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > >>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul > >>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an > >>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many > >>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in > >>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the > >>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a > >>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide > >>>>>>>>>>>> quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard > >>>>>>>>>>> of, they > >>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. > >>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'. > >>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod > >>>>>>>>>> would be > >>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted > >>>>>>>>>> text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve. > >>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste > >>>>>>>> some > >>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no > >>>>>>>> one_ > >>>>>>>> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around > >>>>>>> lying about it. > >>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the > >>>>>> Twelve.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not > >>>>> been ordained. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> I am an apostle. > >>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>> So who ordained you an apostle? > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> You did. > >> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle, > >> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle. > >> It's right up there, in the text. > > >> -- > >> Steve O > > Paul was ordained an apostle. �Al was not. > > I ordain Al as an apostle. > > -- You would have to be an apostle to ordain an apostle. Robert B. Winn
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