Article View: sci.physics
Article #11667Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Masked Avenger
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:57
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:57
71 lines
5556 bytes
5556 bytes
rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, really, aren't you talking about communism and totalitarianism? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does atheism have to do with it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was being an atheist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people. >>>>>>>>>>>> And...? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators. >>>>>>>>>>>> Cite? >>>>>>>>>>> Well, just go ahead and list all of the Communist dictators who were >>>>>>>>>>> Christians, Daniel. >>>>>>>>>> Thomas M ntzer, for starters. >>>>>>>>>> I have more, but I think even one example destroys your guess that >>>>>>>>>> religious people are not allowed to be communist dictators. >>>>>>>>>> By the way, check out this quote from tienne Cabet: "Communism is >>>>>>>>>> Christianity... it is pure Christianity, before it was corrupted by >>>>>>>>>> Catholicism." >>>>>>>>> Never heard of Thomas Muntzer. >>>>>>>> Then this is an opportunity for you to do research. Seek and ye shall find. >>>>>>>>> Etienne Cabet sent a colony to Nauvoo, >>>>>>>>> Illinois, to take over the houses left by members of the Church of >>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints who were driven from the city by >>>>>>>>> mobs. The Communist colony failed. >>>>>>>> Irrelevant. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Well, I do not think it was irrelevant. >>>>>> It is irrelevant to whether Christians can be communist and whether >>>>>> Christians can become communist dictators. >>>>>> -- >>>>> Well, it was not irrelevant at the time, just as it is not irrelevant >>>>> now whether independent voters are allowed to run for office in this >>>>> country. >>>> Um, what? >>> Since the election of 1800 political party politicians have passed >>> laws at state level designed to keep independent voters from running >>> for public office. >> What has that got to do with Christian Communistic Dictators? >> >> (And independent voters can't run for public office?! �WHAT?!) >> >> -- > Political party politicians are passing laws as we speak to prevent > independent voters from running for office. In Arizona, the state > where I live, an independent voter is required to obtain about 20,000 > nomination petition signatures to appear on the ballot for the same > office a major party candidate is required to obtain 3,000 signatures > to appear on the ballot. > States like Alabama, Oregon, and Pennsylvania have been passing > similar laws designed to insure that independent voters cannot compete > with party candidates for ballot access. > Robert B. Winn OK ...... I'm lost now ...... can we back up a bit here ? How does people moving into vacant Mormon Houses and Independent voters running or not running for office in Arizona, relate to whether or not a Communist can be a Christian OR a Christian can be a communist Dictator ?? Bob ...... can you please just TRY and stay on one topic for at least a few posts ? My head is hurting from trying to follow your logic ( or what passes for it ) up hill and down dale ..... through hoops and under fences ..... -- MA ....Yoiks .... and away ..... Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity ............. and I'm not sure about the Universe .......... - A. Einstein Does Schrödinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<g6v3cm$h11$1@austar-news.austar.net.au>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news1.optus.net.au!optus!austar-news.austar.net.au!not-for-mailReferences:
<BaSdnROih8Irlh_VnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <5sudnaA52870TBjVnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <7aecf38a-c44c-4759-890f-604f9e8f8184@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <lb6dnckz5bghow3VnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <7de07850-3704-4a86-9861-885a1553f12d@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <ouidnTyoNPqzlAzVnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <3dce4fdb-0b76-47e3-8888-8c0df52eadb2@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <5eSdnYiLPJEsjAzVnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <d21e5d77-9f65-4ea4-a62e-d55bc3989ac0@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <ueOdnf_cNJTK1wzVnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <967426cf-1206-4c05-85ff-62593d01f878@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <x4GdnaY0EO1tLgzVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <4128d506-bbb8-4daa-babc-9c2cd807ce60@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <X5CdnRrRS8lS_w_VnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <fbc3e167-1e3b-4517-a53e-c6ed6092d6cc@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news1.optus.net.au!optus!austar-news.austar.net.au!not-for-mail From: Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:57:57 +1000 Organization: AustarNet (www.austarnet.com.au) Lines: 71 Message-ID: <g6v3cm$h11$1@austar-news.austar.net.au> References: <BaSdnROih8Irlh_VnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <5sudnaA52870TBjVnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <7aecf38a-c44c-4759-890f-604f9e8f8184@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <lb6dnckz5bghow3VnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <7de07850-3704-4a86-9861-885a1553f12d@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <ouidnTyoNPqzlAzVnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <3dce4fdb-0b76-47e3-8888-8c0df52eadb2@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <5eSdnYiLPJEsjAzVnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <d21e5d77-9f65-4ea4-a62e-d55bc3989ac0@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <ueOdnf_cNJTK1wzVnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <967426cf-1206-4c05-85ff-62593d01f878@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <x4GdnaY0EO1tLgzVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <4128d506-bbb8-4daa-babc-9c2cd807ce60@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <X5CdnRrRS8lS_w_VnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <fbc3e167-1e3b-4517-a53e-c6ed6092d6cc@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.123.15.220 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: austar-news.austar.net.au 1217597656 17441 203.123.15.220 (1 Aug 2008 13:34:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@austarnet.com.au NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:34:16 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) In-Reply-To: <fbc3e167-1e3b-4517-a53e-c6ed6092d6cc@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> X-Original-Bytes: 5232