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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Masked Avenger
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:47
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rbwinn wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. Three
>>>>>>>> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of
>>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
>>>>>>>> ================================
>>>>>>>> Several of the Harry Potter books mention Kings Cross station.
>>>>>>>> Does that make the Harry Potter stories true?
>>>>>>>> Smiler,
>>>>>>> Why don't you spend some more time studying it, Smiler, and decide for
>>>>>>> yourself? I know that atheists are a little lacking in self-
>>>>>>> confidence, but I think you could decide this question for yourself.
>>>>>> I've studied Hezekiah's Tunnel since you brought it up. I still fail to
>>>>>> see what its existence has to do with the truthfulness of the Bible.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
>>>>> Well, first you would have to make a decision about Hezekiah's
>>>>> tunnel. Does the tunnel really exist or is it just a hoax the way one
>>>>> atheist claimed?
>>>> Which atheist? Provide a quote.
>>>>> Then if you decide it exists, how does that relate
>>>>> to the description of its construction in the Old Testament? Was the
>>>>> tunnel seen today the tunnel described in the Old Testament, or is it
>>>>> some other tunnel the way atheists continue to say in this newsgroup?
>>>> Which atheists? Provide quotes.
>>>>> I know this is difficult, but it really is possible for an atheist to
>>>>> make a decision about this.
>>>>> The verses of the Bible that describe the construction of Hezekiah's
>>>>> tunnel are either true, or they are false. So far, having said that
>>>>> the Bible is only myth, atheists are not willing to admit that there
>>>>> are verses describing the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel that are
>>>>> obviously true.
>>>> How about this mindblower:
>>>> Hezekiah's Tunnel exists. The Bible talks about it. The Bible is
>>>> true...on this fact only...but has nothing to do with the truthfulness
>>>> of the Bible.
>>>> Look at every fiction story ever written. A great majority of them
>>>> write about the Earth. An even greater majority talk about humans.
>>>> Does that mean that the book itself is now nonfiction since it describe
>>>> the Earth exactly how we see it today and how humans are?
>>> Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted
>>> that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is
>>> true. �First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction
>>> of something that can be observed.
>> And that's irrelevant.
>>
>>> But your premise is wrong. �Just because you can find a fiction book
>>> that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all
>>> books that describe something that can be seen are fiction.
>> Doesn't prove they're nonfiction, either. �You're starting to get it.
>> Just because a book talks about the construction of something is
>> irrelevant to the veracity of the book.
> 
> No, it is not irrelevant.
> 
>>> �The
>>> furthest you can go �would be to say that the book that describes
>>> something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you
>>> cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. �So you would have
>>> to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not
>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. �I hope
>>> this will help you in your studies.
>> When you get on to proving that God thing as non-fiction, do let me know.
>>
>> --
> God already proved it.  If you reject the atonement of Christ for your
> sins, it is your problem, not mine.
> Robert B. Winn

No .... it's your problem ...... because you're basing all this on a 
certain 'Jesus Christ' character ........ and you have absolutely NO 
proof he ever existed ....... in fact ... the weight of evidence seems 
to point to him NEVER existing .......

-- 
MA ....Yoiks .... and away .....

Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity 
............. and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
  - A. Einstein

Does Schrödinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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