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On Jul 31, 2:47�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
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> > OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> >> > OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
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> >> > > On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> >> > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >> > > <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
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> >> > > >OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> > > >> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> >> > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >> > > >> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
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> >> > > >> >OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >> > > >> >> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >> > > >> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
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> >> > > >> >> >OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> >> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >> > > >> >> >> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >> > > >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
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> >> > > >> >> >> >OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> >> > > >> >> >> >wrote:
> >> > > >> >> >> >> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >> > > >> >> >> >> <rbwi...@juno.com>
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> >> > > >> >> >> >> >OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
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> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote:
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
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> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
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> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it.
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> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
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> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >don't you wait
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >one of the
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >twelve?
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> >> > > >> >> >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you
> >> > > >> >> >> >> insist on making
> >> > > >> >> >> >> a fool of yourself.
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> >> > > >> >> >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
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> >> > > >> >> >> >> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being
> >> > > >> >> >> >> such a bad
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> >> > > >> >> >> >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul
> >> > > >> >> >> >says he is an
> >> > > >> >> >> >apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many
> >> > > >> >> >> >atheists of
> >> > > >> >> >> >today say he was not.
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> >> > > >> >> >> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error.
> >> > > >> >> >> Nowhere in
> >> > > >> >> >> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the
> >> > > >> >> >> Twelve. That was a
> >> > > >> >> >> claim you made up that was not true.
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> >> > > >> >> >> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide
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> >> > > >> >> >Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard
> >> > > >> >> >of, they
> >> > > >> >> >rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
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> >> > > >> >> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'.
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> >> > > >> >> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod
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> >> > > >> >> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted
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> >> > > >> >Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve.
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> >> > > >> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste
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> >> > > >> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no
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> >> > > >Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around
> >> > > >lying about it.
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> >> > > You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the
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> >> > He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not
> >> > been ordained.
> >> > Robert B. Winn
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> >> I am an apostle.
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> > So who ordained you an apostle?
> > Robert B. Winn
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> You did.
> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle,
> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle.
> It's right up there, in the text.
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> Steve O
Paul was ordained an apostle.  Al was not.
Robert B. Winn