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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#11685
From: DanielSan
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:55
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 31, 2:47�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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>> news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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>>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many
>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a
>>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide
>>>>>>>>>>>> quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard
>>>>>>>>>>> of, they
>>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
>>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'.
>>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod
>>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted
>>>>>>>>>> text -
>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no
>>>>>>>> one_
>>>>>>>> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around
>>>>>>> lying about it.
>>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the
>>>>>> Twelve.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not
>>>>> been ordained.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> I am an apostle.
>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
>>> Robert B. Winn
>> You did.
>> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle,
>> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle.
>> It's right up there, in the text.
>>
>> --
>> Steve O
> Paul was ordained an apostle.  Al was not.

I ordain Al as an apostle.

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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
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