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Article #11685Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:55
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:55
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 31, 2:47�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being >>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an >>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many >>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of >>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not. >>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. >>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in >>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the >>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a >>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true. >>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide >>>>>>>>>>>> quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard >>>>>>>>>>> of, they >>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. >>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'. >>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod >>>>>>>>>> would be >>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted >>>>>>>>>> text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve. >>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no >>>>>>>> one_ >>>>>>>> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around >>>>>>> lying about it. >>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the >>>>>> Twelve.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not >>>>> been ordained. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> I am an apostle. >>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>> So who ordained you an apostle? >>> Robert B. Winn >> You did. >> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle, >> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle. >> It's right up there, in the text. >> >> -- >> Steve O > Paul was ordained an apostle. Al was not. I ordain Al as an apostle. -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
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