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Article #11710Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Steve O
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:47
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:47
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 30, 10:32�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> On Jul 31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Jul 30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >> > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >> >> > > >On Jul 30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> > > >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >> > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >> > > >> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >> >> > > >> >On Jul 22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> > > >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >> > > >> >> <rbwi...@juno.com> >> > > >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> > > >> >> >On Jul 21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> > > >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >> > > >> >> >> <rbwi...@juno.com> >> > > >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> > > >> >> >> >On Jul 21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> >> > > >> >> >> >wrote: >> > > >> >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >> > > >> >> >> >> <rbwi...@juno.com> >> > > >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >On Jul 20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> >> > > >> >> >> >> >wrote: >> > > >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan >> > > >> >> >> >> >> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote: >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> ... >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it. >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why >> > > >> >> >> >> >don't you wait >> > > >> >> >> >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was >> > > >> >> >> >> >one of the >> > > >> >> >> >> >twelve? >> >> > > >> >> >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you >> > > >> >> >> >> insist on making >> > > >> >> >> >> a fool of yourself. >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. >> >> > > >> >> >> >> If there were a God, He would strike you down for being >> > > >> >> >> >> such a bad >> > > >> >> >> >> example.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > > >> >> >> >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul >> > > >> >> >> >says he is an >> > > >> >> >> >apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many >> > > >> >> >> >atheists of >> > > >> >> >> >today say he was not. >> >> > > >> >> >> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. >> > > >> >> >> Nowhere in >> > > >> >> >> the entire Bible does it say that Paul was one of the >> > > >> >> >> Twelve. That was a >> > > >> >> >> claim you made up that was not true. >> >> > > >> >> >> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide >> > > >> >> >> quoted text - >> >> > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > > >> >> >Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard >> > > >> >> >of, they >> > > >> >> >rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. >> >> > > >> >> So, as you can see, apostle does not mean 'one of the Twelve'. >> >> > > >> >> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Your god >> > > >> >> would be >> > > >> >> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted >> > > >> >> text - >> >> > > >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > > >> >Well, yes it does mean ?one of the Twelve. >> >> > > >> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste >> > > >> some >> > > >> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no >> > > >> one_ >> > > >> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > >Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around >> > > >lying about it. >> >> > > You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the >> > > Twelve.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > - Show quoted text - >> >> > He said he was an apostle. �He would not have said that if he had not >> > been ordained. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> I am an apostle. >> >> Al- Hide quoted text - > > So who ordained you an apostle? > Robert B. Winn You did. You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle, and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle. It's right up there, in the text. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
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