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Article #1173Re: Fossil Paradox (was: Structure of Time)
From: Kevin D. Clark
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 23:52
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 23:52
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HPOROPUDAS@TNCLUS.TELE.NOKIA.FI writes: Suppose we could build a "device" by which we could travel in time. Now we have for example a fossil of a little mammoth in a Russian museum. This fossil was found frozen in ice in Siberia's tundra (in Russia) some years ago. If I remember right this fossil was estimated to be about 39000 years old. Now what would you think would happen to this fossil if we could get this little mammoth as a living being from the time about 39000 years ago to our present time with the aid of our "device" mentioned above? H-M said that this fossil would burn away from all times between its capture time to the present time, if we would bring it as a living being from a time about 39000 years ago to the present time. It seems to me (and granted I am far from being an expert on the theories of time travel) that nothing would happen at least from the perspective of those who are observing from one timeline. If I went to the museum and saw the mammoth and decided to go back for it, I would leave the timeline that I was currently in which included the mammoth fossil. If I then "stole" the mammoth from the year 37000 BC (or whenever), it would never have died in that year and no fossil record would have been preserved. No fossil could later have been unearthed and as a result, I could never have gone back for the express purpose of "stealing" the mammoth. But if I could never have gone back to kidnap his wooliness then he must have died and become fossilized. What a vicious headache this is giving me.... It sounds like those questions where one is asked if you could go back and kill Adolph Hitler even if it would mean your own death, would you do it? This has always sounded logically impossible to me. If in 1992 I was sent back to 1930 (or some such year) to hunt down a man named Hitler and I was successful, but I was killed, then none of the atrocities of WWII would have happened (in theory). However, when 1992 rolled around I would never be asked to go back and kill Hitler because he would never have committed those crimes. So if I WASN'T sent back, then no one would have killed him and he WOULD have committed the crimes. Aaaugh.....no wonder I majored in engineering ...the answers were in the back of the book. Spooner
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Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.philosophy.tech,talk.religion.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!noiro.acs.uci.edu!network.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!porpoise!cod!clarkk From: clarkk@nosc.mil (Kevin D. Clark) Subject: Re: Fossil Paradox (was: Structure of Time) Message-ID: <1992Aug11.235257.21903@nosc.mil> Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA References: <1992Aug11.135716.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 23:52:57 GMT Lines: 37